poke01
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5090 = 4090 + 70%
The only card worth buying till the Super lineup arrives
5090 = 4090 + 70%
They could just rebadgeSo I took another shot at predicting Blackwell's performance (raster anyway)
5090 = 4090 + 70%
5080 = ~4090
5070 Ti = ~4080S + 10-15%
5070 = ~4070 Ti NS
5060 Ti = 4060 Ti (8 GB) + 15-20%
5060 = 4060 + 0-5%
Is there expected to be any major architecture or clock speed gains?
Is there any reason why you think there won’t be arch improvements?Arch not really, clock speeds maybe. Do not that GB205 and GB207 getting decent sized SM cuts and GB203 and GB206 are basically the same.
Possibly yes to meaningful architecture shift, maybe to clock gains according to rumors.Is there expected to be any major architecture or clock speed gains? Going by the rumored specs I don't see the next gen being more than 15-20% faster than Ada. The only exeption being 5090 with even bigger gap to the 2nd fastast than 4090 already had.
Yeah, and let's hope for bargain $2250 pricing for the 6090. /s$1900 would be really good for the 5090, almost too good to be true
You jest, but with TSMC greed and Nvidia greed the 6090 would be over 2500. Especially if it’s on N3P.Yeah, and let's hope for bargain $2250 pricing for the 6090. /s
They could still produce those big dies on older processes and fix what was wrong with their designs to eek out a bit more performance, rather than paying more for expensive leading edge processes and trying to do chiplets and the associated challenges of making them work as well as monolithic dies.
I mean if it's really 70% faster they could easily charge much more and all the potential buyers would still get it. The 4090 still goes for $2300+ right now, when it's about to be outclassed. Nvidia is just competing with themselves at this point.Yeah, and let's hope for bargain $2250 pricing for the 6090. /s
Agree, 5090 can priced at over 2000 and it will sell. Because where is AMDs equivalent?I mean if it's really 70% faster they could easily charge much more and all the potential buyers would still get it. The 4090 still goes for $2300+ right now, when it's about to be outclassed. Nvidia is just competing with themselves at this point.
And by compete, Nvidia is just slotting higher performance brackets at higher price brackets.I mean if it's really 70% faster they could easily charge much more and all the potential buyers would still get it. The 4090 still goes for $2300+ right now, when it's about to be outclassed. Nvidia is just competing with themselves at this point.
Imo, it will sell because people are willing to pay the price for it, not because it has no competition.Agree, 5090 can priced at over 2000 and it will sell. Because where is AMDs equivalent?
No where ….
It’s both. Where else do you get a GPU that has 32GB VRAM with a ~50%+ increase over the 4090?Imo, it will sell because people are willing to pay the price for it, not because it has no competition.
the people who buy the 90 cards either are stupid rich or use for them work and play.Boycott anyone?
Boycott if it was actually effective would only lead to worse products and ironically more expensive products.Boycott anyone?
Nah, I rather every thing else was shifted up too, not just GB202. GB203 should be 50% bigger than it is.Would you rather have the rtx 5090 stay $1599 but have the core count stay at 16384?
This is no different from people waiting a 24 or 32 core from AMD from Ryzen but they are forced to buy Threadripper to get the extra cores.Do you think it is consumer friendly for the die sizes to jump from 380mm² to 744mm² with nothing in-between? Nope, that's bogus
I’ll go and say it, the 5090 is actually decent for what your getting.
Look at the pricing of 750mm2 N4P die, it’s not cheap. Now add cooling, GDDR7, etc.
It's not equivalent. Namely that's a CPU. It also is slower than its Ryzen equivalents for anything except professional work so it is undesirable and AMD will never be able to convince people that's a good deal even if they priced it lower.This is no different from people waiting a 24 or 32 core from AMD from Ryzen but they are forced to buy Threadripper to get the extra cores.
Same applies here. To answer your question, no it’s not consumer friendly but that’s business.
But why does it cost thousands more?It's not equivalent. Namely that's a CPU. It also is slower than its Ryzen equivalents for anything except professional work so it is undesirable and AMD will never be able to convince people that's a good deal even if they priced it lower.
whose fault is that? Both consumers for buying such expensive cards and AMD/Intels for not competing and Nvidias as well for being a greedy pig.There is no reason except profiteering and lack of competition for the 370mm² gap between GB203 and GB202.
There is no reason except profiteering and lack of competition for the 370mm² gap between GB203 and GB202.