Who knows. Maybe patents for some solutions inside the chips that Apple holds? Maybe the fact that they had to redesign some parts of the chip in hurry due to the ongoing lawsuit, as the rumor goes. Plus I doubt Nuvia guys had anything to do with botched GPUI wish Gerard could tell us what was different at Qualcomm compared to Apple that prevented him from delivering something on par with M3. Is Apple using well researched productivity boosting tricks in their campus (maybe serving free brain enhancing concoctions to important engineers)?
I don’t there is much that prevents others from doing what Apple is doing, it is just that it takes time and hard work. People keep commenting as if all you need to do to design power and efficiency is to just decide to do it, like wondering what’s taking so long for some kid to put on his shoes.I wish Gerard could tell us what was different at Qualcomm compared to Apple that prevented him from delivering something on par with M3. Is Apple using well researched productivity boosting tricks in their campus (maybe serving free brain enhancing concoctions to important engineers)?
This means if Qualcomm made a laptop SoC using 2nd gen Oryon cores, the efficiency would be similar to Apple M3.1st generation Oryon CPU wasn't very good, efficiency wise.
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2nd generation Oryon CPU is much improved. ST Efficiency of Snapdragon 8 Elite is comparable to A17 Pro. One generation behind Apple.
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I wish Gerard could tell us what was different at Qualcomm compared to Apple that prevented him from delivering something on par with M3. Is Apple using well researched productivity boosting tricks in their campus (maybe serving free brain enhancing concoctions to important engineers)?
True, true but wouldn't Gerard have assembled his dream team at Qualcomm? What went wrong?Individuals don't design SoCs with tens of billions of transistors like M3, teams do. Hypothetically, if the Qualcomm team as a whole isn't the equal of Apple's team as a whole, it wouldn't matter if Apple's lead wasn't as good as Qualcomm's lead.
Almost 40% faster than my S24+.samsung SM-S936U - Geekbench
Benchmark results for a samsung SM-S936U with a Qualcomm ARMv8 processor.browser.geekbench.com
Galaxy S25+ with Snapdragon 8 Elite visits Geekbench.
4.47 GHz peak clock speed.
True, true but wouldn't Gerard have assembled his dream team at Qualcomm? What went wrong?
It must be noted these numbers are shipments, not sales.Canalys told TechRadar Pro, “As this was the first full quarter of shipments for Snapdragon X Series PCs, we saw sequential growth of around 180% compared to Q2 2024.
| Shipments | QoQ | |
| Q2 | 400,000 | |
| Q3 | 720,000 | 180% |
The X Elite and X Plus chips, used for Windows on ARM (WOA), will reach about 2 million unit shipments in 2024