Do you have a "What are you listening to" middle-age music problem?

Charmonium · Dec 9, 2024

JS Bach, Prelude and Fugue in B minor is epic but to really get a sense of power of an organ concerto, you have to hear it live - or on halfway decent 7.2 sound system. Otherwise, it just sounds like a carnival calliope.

The problem though is that not many organ installations have the 64 foot pipes that you can really feel. Kirkpatrick Chapel at Rutgers has 32 foot pipes but has to have 2 5 foot wide speakers to simulate the 64s.

lxskllr · Dec 9, 2024

Pipe organ's bombastic and awful. I don't need to hear anything played through a pipe organ. Make it a Hammond B3, and you've got my attention.

Note:
My opinions may be somewhat clouded by the brainwashing experience of the catholic cult I grew up in.

IronWing · Dec 9, 2024

Charmonium said:
JS Bach, Prelude and Fugue in B minor is epic but to really get a sense of power of an organ concerto, you have to hear it live - or on halfway decent 7.2 sound system. Otherwise, it just sounds like a carnival calliope.

The problem though is that not many organ installations have the 64 foot pipes that you can really feel. Kirkpatrick Chapel at Rutgers has 32 foot pipes but has to have 2 5 foot wide speakers to simulate the 64s.

The only organ music I ever liked was hearing the organ at the Ely Cathedral after a recent tune up being played by someone who knew what they were doing. It was impressive.
Someone was playing the organ at one of the other English cathedrals (York maybe) and it sounded like a gaggle of very sad geese.

nakedfrog · Dec 9, 2024

biostud said:
Still finding new metal, so I'm good.

I just learned about Electric Callboy a couple of months ago and been listening non stop since.

I just the other day came across Wolfenmond, a German band that started out 20 years ago making more or less straight-forward neo-medieval folk, a few years later they were veering into more of an industrial rock sound, their more recent release are metal more adjacent to Korpiklaani or Eluveitie. I've only sampled a track or two from a few albums, looking forward to delving deeper.

biostud said:
I don't think it is so much about caring, but rather if you at a certain point in life stop finding new music you like and keep listening to the good old ones.

Yeah, it definitely seems at least half of people just don't add anything new once they hit age 30.

BurnItDwn said:
Those Sirius guys are frickin annoying.
I bought a car from a ford dealer some years ago for my wife. Ford has a deal with Sirius. Sirius kept calling me daily, weekly, then monthy for like 2 years after I bought the car to keep trying to activate the free "trial" after I explicitly told them I was not going to ever sign up for it and to leave me alone. Blocked every number they called from, but they kept trying over and over again. Even if i wanted to listen one of their stations, I would never sign up for them in principal due to how annoying their marketing is.

Sirius didn't call me, fortunately, but I sure did get a lot of mail from them trying to get me to subscribe when I bought my VW. It finally tapered off a bit after a couple years, but the trickle never entirely ceased. I wouldn't even take a Sirius subscription for free.

Charmonium said:
JS Bach, Prelude and Fugue in B minor is epic but to really get a sense of power of an organ concerto, you have to hear it live - or on halfway decent 7.2 sound system. Otherwise, it just sounds like a carnival calliope.

The problem though is that not many organ installations have the 64 foot pipes that you can really feel. Kirkpatrick Chapel at Rutgers has 32 foot pipes but has to have 2 5 foot wide speakers to simulate the 64s.

Veritasium had a neat video that featured pipe organ a few weeks back.

nakedfrog · Dec 9, 2024

In regards to the question in the title... the only "problem" I have is no one ever knows who the bands I'm talking about are.

Charmonium · Dec 9, 2024

IronWing said:
The only organ music I ever liked was hearing the organ at the Ely Cathedral after a recent tune up being played by someone who knew what they were doing. It was impressive.

It really is impressive to watch. Not only are both hands playing different keys but then there are the bass pedals that require both feet. It seems almost superhuman.

I used to play saxophone so I understand to some extent what that feels like but it really is a whole different level.

nakedfrog · Dec 9, 2024

Charmonium said:
It really is impressive to watch. Not only are both hands playing different keys but then there are the bass pedals that require both feet. It seems almost superhuman.

I used to play saxophone so I understand to some extent what that feels like but it really is a whole different level.

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I want an organ-style bass pedal setup for my synthesizers but they're outrageously expensive
First played an organ with bass pedals at a friend's house a couple months ago and it was quite nice. I could get a free organ from craigslist or Facebook, but damned if I'm going to haul an organ to a show.

BurnItDwn · Dec 9, 2024

@nakedfrog
Have you heard Caladan Brood?
After reading your description of Wolfenmond, i think you might enjoy this group too.

Dungeony epic black metalish medieval stuff. Has a lot in common with Summoning.
Might pique your interests.

Echoes of Battle, by Caladan Brood

6 track album

caladanbrood.bandcamp.com

nakedfrog · Dec 9, 2024

BurnItDwn said:
@nakedfrog
Have you heard Caladan Brood?
After reading your description of Wolfenmond, i think you might enjoy this group too.

Dungeony epic black metalish medieval stuff. Has a lot in common with Summoning.
Might pique your interests.

Echoes of Battle, by Caladan Brood

6 track album

caladanbrood.bandcamp.com

Would be better if it weren't blackened

BurnItDwn · Dec 9, 2024

nakedfrog said:
Would be better if it weren't blackened

Ahh, then no Ulver or Ihsahn for you!

nakedfrog · Dec 9, 2024

BurnItDwn said:
Ahh, then no Ulver or Ihsahn for you!

Yes, that's correct! Besides, Ulver has put out plenty of non-black metal material

BurnItDwn · Dec 9, 2024

nakedfrog said:
Yes, that's correct! Besides, Ulver has put out plenty of non-black metal material

I think Black metal has simply expanded to all the other genre's. Whatever garm plays or sings, is a subset of black metal to me

Charmonium · Dec 10, 2024

nakedfrog said:
Would be better if it weren't blackened

A respectable pun. Just remember, 4 lashes. It's still a pun.

What is black metal?

a type of heavy rock music having lyrics that deal with Satan and the supernatural.

Hmm sounds interesting. But what style of metal is it close to? Death? Symphonic? etc.

nakedfrog · Dec 10, 2024

Charmonium said:
A respectable pun. Just remember, 4 lashes. It's still a pun.

What is black metal?

Hmm sounds interesting. But what style of metal is it close to? Death? Symphonic? etc.

Black metal is characterized by sort of grating screamy/harsh vocals (I do like some flavors of harsh vocals, see: Eluveitie, Amon Amarth, Ensiferum, Hellfury), and harsh production methods on guitars (overly trebly and grating, thin tones) and often blast beats (where the drummer hits as many parts of the drum kit as they can at all times, relentlessly). Closest to non-melodic death metal, I'd say.

Charmonium · Dec 10, 2024

Satan loves you.

But maybe, not for much longer. It sounds like a painfully acquired taste.

dlerious · Dec 10, 2024

nakedfrog said:
I just the other day came across Wolfenmond, a German band that started out 20 years ago making more or less straight-forward neo-medieval folk, a few years later they were veering into more of an industrial rock sound, their more recent release are metal more adjacent to Korpiklaani or Eluveitie. I've only sampled a track or two from a few albums, looking forward to delving deeper.

What do you think about Horslips?

nakedfrog · Dec 10, 2024

Charmonium said:
Satan loves you.

But maybe, not for much longer. It sounds like a painfully acquired taste.

My understanding is that it's meant to be challenging to listen to and unpleasant, IDK, it ain't for me.

lxskllr · Dec 10, 2024

I appreciate black metal, and I even enjoy it on a certain level, but it's just too much. It's everything all at once, and it doesn't stop til you stop it.

nakedfrog · Dec 10, 2024

dlerious said:
What do you think about Horslips?

Doesn't do much for me. I do dig the electric piano tone.

sdifox · Dec 10, 2024

Charmonium said:
A respectable pun. Just remember, 4 lashes. It's still a pun.

What is black metal?

Hmm sounds interesting. But what style of metal is it close to? Death? Symphonic? etc.

BurnItDwn · Dec 10, 2024

lxskllr said:
I appreciate black metal, and I even enjoy it on a certain level, but it's just too much. It's everything all at once, and it doesn't stop til you stop it.

everything all at once, that sounds like freejazz to me, or maybe something like Encenathrakh!

BurnItDwn · Dec 10, 2024

Charmonium said:
Satan loves you.

But maybe, not for much longer. It sounds like a painfully acquired taste.

I first came across black metal when I was in high school back in the 1990s, and loved it immediately.
It has an intensity similar to death metal, but its different.

My first exposure was the album "Eld" by Enslaved. That said, some folks call this "Viking Metal" and dont consider it Black Metal.

Also, not all black metal takes itself too seriously.
There are plenty of guys out there like "Abbath" who have plenty of fun with it.

DainBramaged · Dec 16, 2024

nakedfrog said:
In regards to the question in the title... the only "problem" I have is no one ever knows who the bands I'm talking about are.

I have the same problem. Even when talking to "kids".

biostud · Dec 17, 2024

BurnItDwn said:
I first came across black metal when I was in high school back in the 1990s, and loved it immediately.
It has an intensity similar to death metal, but its different.

My first exposure was the album "Eld" by Enslaved. That said, some folks call this "Viking Metal" and dont consider it Black Metal.

Also, not all black metal takes itself too seriously.
There are plenty of guys out there like "Abbath" who have plenty of fun with it.

The weird obsessiveness of putting music in specific genres by metal heads and defining whether it is good/or "true" based on that....
To me it definitely sounds like black metal

Did you I ever try to push Orm on you?

nOOky · Dec 17, 2024

Speaking of organs, my ex played the one-hole skin flute like a pro, I really miss that in my life. My current wife like country (ugh) and I like hard rock and alternative. I have all of my music on one flash drive in my car, but usually I'm listening to an audiobook or BBC on Sirius. I try new music sometimes when I'm feeling frisky, and occasionally I'll actually like a track or two.

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