And give people more excuses to whine about AMD products? I have to admit that I look to AMD for bang for buck. That's always been their allure to me. Take that away and I'll be left looking towards the budget offerings of both Intel and AMD and choose what seems to be the best fit for my needs without blowing a hole in my bank account. I prefer their current strategy. Give consumers stuff at reasonable prices while charging a premium from their enterprise customers. I think that kind of balance helps them stay the "good guys" of this industry. As for 9800X3D, if anyone's paying more than MSRP for it, I truly feel sorry for them. It means they have no patience and they probably have a lot more problems to deal with in life than overpriced CPUs.Its AMDs own fault they didnt price 9800X3D higher. Their marketing dept failed to properly guage demand. They could have MSRP'ed it at $599 easily and still sold their first few runs instantly. Opportunities to go unchallenged are usually few and far between for them. I guess they have gone soft.
Too high of a gen on gen bump.They could have MSRP'ed it at $599 easily and still sold their first few runs instantly.
Hey, well, the current 9800X3D situation kinda confirms your $999 halo price hypothesis had vanilla Zen 5 delivered a solid 40% IPC uplift.Too high of a gen on gen bump.
Just perf uplift, really.Hey, well, the current 9800X3D situation kinda confirms your $999 halo price hypothesis had vanilla Zen 5 delivered a solid 40% IPC uplift.
Halo won't be cheap.
The OEMs are also to blame. Nothing is stopping them from releasing 18 inch laptops with 9800X3D power limited to 65W TDP. It's the age old problem. The sellers don't want to sell us something WE want. They want to sell us something that benefits them more than it does us.If AMD really wants the laptop gaming performance crown, then they can release a 9745HX3D any day of the week. They didn't release that for Dragon range, and I suspect that won't do it this time either.
I like that AMD partners are taking the opposite approach of Intel's high speed RAM support by reducing latency. Competition is awesome!Now imagine Zen 6 x3d with this low latency RAM... yum!
Sure but the gaming market wants GeForceLaptops with NVidia 4070 dGPU are not cheap either
They will change their tune once they see Strix Halo GPU accessing more than 32GB RAM on the 64GB laptops.Sure but the gaming market wants GeForce
Very very slow snail like RAM, where as Nvidia got cheetah GDDR7once they see Strix Halo GPU accessing more than 32GB RAM on the 64GB laptops.
But there's the benefit of unified RAM. Depending on their driver implementation, it could mean instant access for shared data between CPU and GPU and avoid bus transfers.Very very slow snail like RAM, where as Nvidia got cheetah GDDR7
It's still very slow RAM, now if it was unified GDDR7...But there's the benefit of unified RAM
I think that's true of current implementations of iGPU by AMD (not sure about Intel) but maybe with Strix Halo they could conceivably tap their console experience and build special drivers to take advantage of a large pool of unified RAM.laptop GPU gets it's "own" memory selected from that unified one...
How can it be done if the software does not support it? Hardware was there a long time ago, but Windoze model isn't there, so (and that's my understanding) you can't just have unified memory and have say CyberPunk 2077 run in it - on Windowz of course, they can do that fine on consoles where API designed for it. It will probably take DirectX 20 to get it all working...maybe with Strix Halo they could conceivably tap their console experience and build special drivers to take advantage of a large pool of unified RAM.
Tricks. If the CPU requests some data that the driver "knows" is present in the GPU's portion of the RAM (maybe through indexing or data tags or whatever), then it could save precious latency cycles on expensive memory transfers. That's my hope at least.How can it be done if the software does not support it?
Yeah. I guess that's what they are going to tout in their marketing materials.Now for "AI" having large pool of unified memory should be good to load big models, that's for sure.
Very.Kinda expensive but that would be an interesting PC.
Console Peasant: pathetic weak CPU (or maybe even GPU) requests compressed data from disk and it gets decompressed by additional hardware and put where it needs to be - done.If the CPU requests some data that the driver "knows" is present in the GPU's portion of the RAM