Did you expect them to admit this? lol! Of course they did. They are working on new hardware.
From what I gather, the boost clocks are 5.7 ghz for the 3D chiplet. This is from the rumor mill, however, so we will see at launch.
It's probably 5.2-5.3GHz. If it's 5.7GHz then they would not having been so careful saying it's the fastest 16 core gaming CPU.That would be quite out of this world, if true. It would, theoretically, outperform 9800x3d by nearly 10%, based on clock speeds.
I am a little skeptical. I think AMD would mention it / demonstrate it.
Default TDPs of both parts are 15 W
Hmm, I was misled by a 3rd party site which for some reason lists 15 W. Right at this moment, amd.com lists 28 W default TPD for both indeed. (Edit: Snapshots of AMD's product pages at web.archive.org also say 28 W.)That's not true, it's 28W.
OEM Battery life Claims are usually double of what you get in reality. So realistically we should expect 7h, which is good for the performance Tier but nothing out of this World. If Optimus and Co. work like they should it is achievable by many currently available devices.Idle power of Strix Halo look quite good given the gigantic SoC design, HP state 5.32W for the full laptop with IPS screen.
[Zen 4 Phoenix, Phoenix 2]
Hmm, I was misled by a 3rd party site which for some reason lists 15 W. Right at this moment, amd.com lists 28 W default TPD for both indeed. (Edit: Snapshots of AMD's product pages at web.archive.org also say 28 W.)
OEM Battery life Claims are usually double of what you get in reality. So realistically we should expect 7h, which is good for the performance Tier but nothing out of this World. If Optimus and Co. work like they should it is achievable by many currently available devices.
Compared to PHX2 it's great. Better everything. But the die size - and cost - isn't comparable to PHX2.KRK is, at best, a generational upgrade to PHX2.
The most recent ones is basically every Lunar Lake device. Claims ar mostly in the 27-30h region while reality is 14-15h for most.HP state 5.32W for the laptops and you are saying that it s actualy 10.64W, that s quite a big difference with nothing else to support your claim than a "trust me bro"...
NBCs power draw and battery life numbers never line up properly. There is a ton of reviews where they measure 20W or something minimum Idle power and then get 7h battery life. Pretty sure there is no gaming laptop where they measured 5W but there's plenty over the last years with 7h or more battery lifeNow show us the devices with comparable GPUs and CPU that last that long, and not with a conditional "if", real numbers from existing products and 5.32W idle power, there s scores of tested laptops at NBC and their settings are quite forgiving for battery life when idling.
MiniPC is the most exciting part - IMO.They showed three Strix Halo devices. I don't get why they'd put it in a miniPC.
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Bet it is higher. We already know those X3D parts can hit 5.6-5.7ghz without LN2. I guess we will find out soon. 😉It's probably 5.2-5.3GHz. If it's 5.7GHz then they would not having been so careful saying it's the fastest 16 core gaming CPU.
Prepare to be disappointed. Did you look at the slides?Bet it is higher. We already know those X3D parts can hit 5.6-5.7ghz without LN2. I guess we will find out soon. 😉
8% faster. Than the 7950X3D. That's Zen 5% in action combined with 150MHz effective clock increase.EDIT: AMD said the chip was 8% faster than the 9800X3D. Where do you think that gain comes from. Not the second CCD!
GNR-31: Testing as of Nov 2024 by AMD Performance Labs using the following game titles tested at 1080p high settings: Black Myth: Wukong, Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora, Hogwarts Legacy, Call of Duty:Black Ops, Starfield, CyberPunk 2077, Counter Strike 2, Final Fantasy XIV, Hitman 3, Warhammer 20,000: Space Marine 2, Watch Dogs: Legion, Far Cry 6, Ashes of the Singularity. Both AMD Ryzen 99950X3D and Ryzen 7 7950X3D systems configured as follows: GIGABYTE X870E AORUS MASTER, 32GB DDR5-6000, Nvidia RTX 4090, KRAKEN X63, Win 11 Pro 26100, VBS ON, SAM/REBAR ON.
Your shared footnotes says "VBS ON". Of course it's gonna be higher than 8% with that abominable setting off.8% faster.
Igor, come on. The point is there is no real clock rate increase beyond the 9800X3D. C.f. AMD's testing for the 9800X3D. Compared to the 7800X3D (also with VBS on) they presented the same 8% performance increase. Stop trying to manifest more clock speed, it isn't happening. It's 5.2-5.3GHz at most.Your shared footnotes says "VBS ON". Of course it's gonna be higher than 8% with that abominable setting off.
Minspec is 16 gigs.That HP G1a looks pretty sweet
Wonder what MSRP will be for 128 GB model and availability in general
What will minimum memory for Halo be? They say 128 GB with up to 96 available to GPU, I wonder why 32 GB are reserved?
Does that mean min spec will be 64 GB?
Probably to protect the OS from swap file paralysis. The 128 GB Macs have the exact same 96 GB limit, but a simple terminal command can give as much as you want to the GPU. macOS has usually been seen to be stable with the GPU taking as much as 120 GB of the RAM, though you’d want to be judicious about multitasking if you are giving the GPU nearly all the RAM.That HP G1a looks pretty sweet
Wonder what MSRP will be for 128 GB model and availability in general
What will minimum memory for Halo be? They say 128 GB with up to 96 available to GPU, I wonder why 32 GB are reserved?
Does that mean min spec will be 64 GB?
Kraken isn't a rebrand even if it may be pointless outside of a sticker. Phoenix 2 was also not a rebrand nor pointless. It was supposed to be cheaper.the whole KRK, HWK, PHX2 stuff is completely pointless rebranding
That would be quite out of this world, if true. It would, theoretically, outperform 9800x3d by nearly 10%, based on clock speeds.
I am a little skeptical. I think AMD would mention it / demonstrate it.
Yea I had I think it was a 800 USD Sapphire Nitro+ BUT it said shipped from Amazon.
See below.Anybody seen 3d chiplet clocks for 9950x3d? AMD's site just show usual "up to 5.7", without breaking down by chiplet type.
See below.That would be quite out of this world, if true. It would, theoretically, outperform 9800x3d by nearly 10%, based on clock speeds.
I am a little skeptical. I think AMD would mention it / demonstrate it.
Bet it is higher. We already know those X3D parts can hit 5.6-5.7ghz without LN2. I guess we will find out soon. 😉
EDIT: AMD said the chip was 8% faster than the 9800X3D. Where do you think that gain comes from. Not the second CCD!
There is "no problem" reaching 5220MHz. There is "a problem" reaching 5355MHz, can't ship it.On the 7950X3D the frequency limitation was mostly caused by thermals because cache die was between the CCD and the heat spreader. In Zen5 the cache die is below the CCD, so there is no problem in reaching higher clocks.