In 2019 when fires raged on federal lands in CA
Why didn’t you say poor leadership then?
That's a very good question. The simple answer is poor leadership, though I'm sure it goes much deeper than that. California has had a few catastrophic fires over the years, they all end with a lot of finger pointing and not much action.
We do back burning here in Australia and it is carried out by the fire services, it needs to be controlled burns, You can't have FOB's doing it.The sheer volume of material we are talking about here is enormous. Unless he’s going to allow tens of thousands of people in on H2Bs to do this work it’s not going to get done and stay done. Not to mention appropriating the funds to do it on Fed lands.
You want to completely devastate the hillsides / mountains.
Plant life holds the landscape together. Without them you'd have mud slides every time it rained.
I have no idea. That would be something for an engineer to figure out. It could be that it can't be done at all. We have a couple of examples of what doesn't work very well, seems like a starting point.How is that defined "water supply to fight the fires "? Does that mean the city water supply for a area needs to be sized that every fire hydrant in that area can be in use simultaneously for 72-hours?
I remember that fire. October or November…1992 maybe. I remember that the various fire departments equipment wasn’t compatible. Hoses wouldn’t connect to stuff.All you guys blaming this on chaparral can fuck right off. I was in Oakland for the firestorm. We had 70 mph winds and I was kicking doors open to let animals out. Some times it was 30 seconds between houses catching on fire. There is zero water pressure when houses are burned to the ground. I spent a month in the burn unit at alta bates recovering.
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I remember that fire. October or November…1992 maybe. I remember that the various fire departments equipment wasn’t compatible. Hoses wouldn’t connect to stuff.
All you guys blaming this on chaparral can fuck right off. I was in Oakland for the firestorm. We had 70 mph winds and I was kicking doors open to let animals out. Some times it was 30 seconds between houses catching on fire. There is zero water pressure when houses are burned to the ground. I spent a month in the burn unit at alta bates recovering.
What I will tell you is there is no defensible space in 70 or 100 mph winds.
This is a standard phenomenon in the provision and management of public goods, and addressing crises that are non-routine. "Oh! They [party in power] effed it up, and we'll do better! Only I can fix it!"Serious question how do you deal with fast growing brush because of a really wet year followed by a very dry year? Are you advocating for massive variable spending from year to year to make sure each acre is cleared?
What I will tell you is there is no defensible space in 70 or 100 mph winds.
Is this a sick joke? Mabey you should spend a month in the burn unitBut what if I put 2 soaker hoses out in the yard?
If you read my posts in this thread I am consistent that the speculation about fire breaks, water, controlled burns is bull shit. So yes it is a bit of sarcasm aimed at that since obviously soaker hoses are useless in 100 mph winds.Is this a sick joke?
I spent months of my childhood at the Shriners in Galveston having surgeries for a burn I received as an infant. It wasn’t fun but I was lucky compared to the kids who had been burned over 70% of their bodies and what they went through.Is this a sick joke? Mabey you should spend a month in the burn unit
Fuel (chaparral) is literally 1/3 of the Fire Triangle (Fuels, Oxygen, and Heat). What is your point exactly?All you guys blaming this on chaparral can fuck right off. I was in Oakland for the firestorm. We had 70 mph winds and I was kicking doors open to let animals out. Some times it was 30 seconds between houses catching on fire. There is zero water pressure when houses are burned to the ground. I spent a month in the burn unit at alta bates recovering.
Seriously, why the fuck does it matter to 99.999% of the population where it came from? The idea that if it came out of the lab the response to it would've been/should've been different is stupid.Don't know, don't care. Covid came out of Wuhan China. Some people believe it started in a wet market, some people believe it came from the Wuhan covid research lab that was doing gain of function work on the virus.
I know how I'd bet on the source.
In a time of crisis everyone asks why the government didn't do everything, at all other times people question every dollar the government spends and does everything they can to not pay taxes. Just watched a YouTube video of a normally liberal subjected channel where he was bitching about how much taxes California takes and why or why don't they have enough water pumps to fight urban wildfires when the towers run dry. I.e. "why should we have to pay taxes?" mixed with "why doesn't LA install a $500B water system upgrade that will be used once every 50 years and cost billions a year to maintain?"Then you need to do controlled burns. I thin stuff all the time around my property which would be considered chaparral. Some places in CA have had good success with using goats to think back chaparral. It either needs to be thinned out or you going to have more of these types of fires which cost billions of dollar.
The budget went up 9% yoy, so maybe people should stop getting their facts from twitter and repeating them: https://www.latimes.com/california/...the-l-a-fire-department-really-cut-its-budgetJust an observation from Australia another fire prone country. In an area known for savage fires, cutting back on the FD seems a bit stupid and a recipe for disaster. Saw a news report that a large number of emergency equipment (trucks), are sitting in a boneyard waiting for maintenance, with not enough staff to maintain the fleet.
Amazing that the world's biggest economy cannot fund it's essential services.
I moved to OKC right after the big tornadoes in 2013. Actually my first house hunting trip, a few of the houses I wanted to look at where no longer there. House prices jumped about 10% that summer, due to all the people needing a new place to live and trying to get it before the school year started.Never let a disaster get in the way of making extra profit through price gouging...
Asking rents skyrocket as LA fires destroy homes
For one listing, rent jumped nearly 86% since September. In an interview with LAist, the agent said she told her client, “People are desperate, and you can probably get good money.”laist.com
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Asking rents skyrocket as LA fires destroy homes
I have no doubt this will also apply to "regular" homes for rent in the area as well. With so many people suddenly in the market for someplace to rent...rents will spike.
Did you get your education from Trump University? Maybe you should go spend some time learning who is responsible city water infrastructure, operation, and maintanence. (Hint: generally not the governor)At least Newsom is done politically after this. But some here will still try to push him in 2028.
That would cause the fires to spread faster than the 100mph winds did.Place the orange monkey on the front line. His hot air will put it out
Hmm, do you acknowledge the fact that Trump removed the oversight team, that was in place at that very research lab? Or do you also ignore that fact as well?Don't know, don't care. Covid came out of Wuhan China. Some people believe it started in a wet market, some people believe it came from the Wuhan covid research lab that was doing gain of function work on the virus.
I know how I'd bet on the source.
I'm unsure how to parse this, TBH. How do I know it isn't your excuse to not care about the consequences of your actions?You can care, just understand that it isn't going to help anything other than your guilt.