Owners of prebuilts have to go through the company they bought it from for service, not Intel.
More red meat for the lawsuits and FTC.
Owners of prebuilts have to go through the company they bought it from for service, not Intel.they should just redirect customers to Intel website and RMA
More red meat for the lawsuits and FTC.concerning the intel cpu: matt is still getting tons of user crash reporting/datalog that they have to try to explain to the customer the cpu degradation problem. intel still hasnt gotten the info out to its customers and the rma stuff is seemingly not a rush priority. rumors of SI vendors who sold a full turnkey system are denying rma claims based on the cpu. matt isnt even sure if the microcode fix is actually working. tom(mlid) advised him to put out his game crash data and let GN or L1T make a story on it.
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That's another high end CPU customer gone to AMD. It is not a unique story for individuals or companies. There is the ongoing costs of replacement. The ever growing legal costs. Lost sales in retail. Credits to builders like HP with stories like this commenter'sI wish you the best. My 13900k lasted about a year. The replacement 14900k I got after RMA lasted from 09/15/24 until about a week ago. (Yes the BIOS was up to date, and all of Intel's limits strictly enforced.) It's going to be awhile before I consider Intel again.
My HP Omen 45L just got RMA and they had to replace my I7 14700k. Took a bit longer than expected but they were a week behind due to the holidays so I was patient. I get to fire it up tonight to see how it is, I pray everything will be good moving forward.
Is this an appropriate way to put thermal paste ?Guy uses youtube cred to get VIP treatment on raptor RMA. A few commenters also have good RMA experience. More do not, and one had to get GN or another tuber involved to get a refund. Some poor Stockholm hostage is all jazzed replying "Intel is stepping it up!" lmao Sure, if you can threaten to drag them hard for views they will take great care of you. Now excited hostage; ask yourself why any of this is happening to begin with.
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That's another high end CPU customer gone to AMD. It is not a unique story for individuals or companies. There is the ongoing costs of replacement. The ever growing legal costs. Lost sales in retail. Credits to builders like HP with stories like this commenter's
But keep telling us how a recall was more expensive.
He is using a contact frame so it should not get too messy. I gave up on critiquing others methodologies for application years ago. Guy seems like an experienced builder, so it must work for him?Is this an appropriate way to put thermal paste ?
Ok. Strange. Looks crouded to me.He is using a contact frame so it should not get too messy. I gave up on critiquing others methodologies for application years ago. Guy seems like an experienced builder, so it must work for him?
Is this an appropriate way to put thermal paste ?
You can use 20x more paste than needed if you do not care about the messy disgusting sticky hard to clean awful squeeze-out. The worst can happen is the paste getting inside the socket.
AMD might have gotten a new customer, but he got DOWNVOTED. Big win for Intel!!!They downvoted this reply -
That's another high end CPU customer gone to AMD. It is not a unique story for individuals or companies. There is the ongoing costs of replacement. The ever growing legal costs. Lost sales in retail. Credits to builders like HP with stories like this commenter's
AMD might have gotten a new customer, but he got DOWNVOTED. Big win for Intel!!!
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Hold up, they were not wrong. They were downvoted for unpopular facts. And unless my dain bramage is acting up, it is the first account of someone's fully mitigated CPU failing that any of us have read?Someone on the Internet is wrong! Downvote!
Hold up, they were not wrong. They were downvoted for unpopular facts. And unless my dain bramage is acting up, it is the first account of someone's fully mitigated CPU failing that any of us have read?
Hold up, they were not wrong. They were downvoted for unpopular facts. And unless my dain bramage is acting up, it is the first account of someone's fully mitigated CPU failing that any of us have read?
That occured to me as well. The other side of the coin: It is exactly why this took so long to blow up like an ACME dynamite kit. You can look back in this thread and see all of the "Mine nor anyone I know has any problem with 13-14" "It's a nothing burger/blown way out of proportion." "PEBKAC/PICNIC" Even Intel tried everything but being honest about it. Consequently, I think the benefit of a doubt goes to those claiming to have degradation.It’s not the first I’ve seen but it’s hard to know how real the random internet anecdotal experiences are.
First one I've seen that's cut-and-dried. Unfortunately we won't get corroboration from Wendel/L1techs in the future so someone else is gonna have to monitor the situation.And unless my dain bramage is acting up, it is the first account of someone's fully mitigated CPU failing that any of us have read?
No. Refresh happened because MTL-S was crap and Intel ships OEMs "new" chips every year (before and after Gelsinger).They wasted time on Raptor Lake and its Refresh because Arrow Lake was late.
Arrow Lake arrived on time. ADL 21, RPL 22, MTL 23, ARL 24. Spot the one that didn't happen. The cadence is very simple.And when they finally delivered Arrow Lake, it was also rushed because Pat hadn't planned for contingencies.
Tied up on what? The Royal distraction? Royal started with who again? Say his name.Those tied up engineering teams could've worked together to deliver something really awesome.
No, you'd get Redwood Cove. Why don't you go buy it? Oh right, it clocks lower.Raptor Lake Refresh on Intel 4 or Intel 3
Nope, Lion Cove is the first "portable" P core. So you wouldn't get that either.or even TSMC N3B
A monolithic 450mm2 CPU at 500W?Or we could've had a monolithic Arrow Lake with fewer cores and HT enabled on Intel 7
No, you'll be stuck with nothing to sell. Intel/AMD/Apple/ARM iterate with occasional clean-sheets because it works. For the insurmountable challenge, Royal, the engineers created the semiconductor equivalent of the Penrose stairs. Looks neat, can't be built.^^^ Want to see engineers at their best? Give them insurmountable challenges like the ones I mentioned. Want to see them at their worst? Make them do things they CLEARLY do not want to do, like rehash Alder Lake with Raptor Lake, then rehash that with the lame Refresh and make them do tiles with a gun to their heads. And the irony is that the lame Refresh is beating the tiles architecture they were forced to do because AMD.
That is good to read.At that point I highly suspected the CPU was the problem, so I get it replaced (it was painless actually).
Yes, every "65W" or higher CPU is affected. The damage is irreversible. The current hope is that if you have the system fully mitigated with a new CPU that accelerated degradation will no longer occur.Since then, no more crashes. It looks like even the non-K CPUs can't escape the curse of that generation.
Yes, every "65W" or higher CPU is affected. The damage is irreversible. The current hope is that if you have the system fully mitigated with a new CPU that accelerated degradation will no longer occur.
13th generationIt looks like even the non-K CPUs can't escape the curse of that generation.