Poll: Florida requires uploading government ID before accessing porn sites.

Zorba

Lifer
Oct 22, 1999
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Need another option. I think real age gating on the internet is needed. There also needs to be a secure system to do this without tracking, which is obviously not requiring you to submit a government ID.

I could see basically buying a secure token that the website can ping that says "Is this person over X" and the website gets a "yes/no" answer. Could also be used to enforce age-gating of social media and other online data collecting of children.
 

biostud

Lifer
Feb 27, 2003
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No, but there are ways of doing it where they don't get your private data.
In Danmark we have a national two factor authenticator system which is tied up to your national ID, means all logins to banks, public offices, national e-box, online payments with credit etc. requires authentication with 'mitID' (myID) as a two factor system.
 
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ksheets

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As a resident of Florida, I've been advised that using a VPN MAY get around this restriction (obviously I haven't tried or anything...)
 
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Zorba

Lifer
Oct 22, 1999
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Yes, there are but that isn't the point. What happened to the party of small government and freedom?
That was always bullshit? Especially with regards to porn. I don't think age gating hardcore porn is government over reach either. This method is questionable, though.

However it is long past time we stop pretending like the Internet is some little thing that shouldn't be regulated.
 
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GoPackGo

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Way back in the day there was talk about making all porn use .XXX so that it could be blocked at the router or ISP level. Obviously that never happened.
 
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In Danmark we have a national two factor authenticator system which is tied up to your national ID, means all logins to banks, public offices, national e-box, online payments with credit etc. requires authentication with 'mitID' (myID) as a two factor system.

Have there been any downsides or backfires to this? I've been interested in learning how this really keeps people more safe, from a privacy perspective.

Does Demark age-gate certain websites with it? What do they do with the data that is collected? Or is it a "blind" 2FA that just exchanges tokens? I could see something like that becoming blackmail fodder quickly if used by the wrong people.
 

[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
Dec 15, 2015
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Have there been any downsides or backfires to this? I've been interested in learning how this really keeps people more safe, from a privacy perspective.

Does Demark age-gate certain websites with it? What do they do with the data that is collected? Or is it a "blind" 2FA that just exchanges tokens? I could see something like that becoming blackmail fodder quickly if used by the wrong people.
If done correctly, it'll work quite well. Just require 2fa from the same 2fa provider for each login, and used in conjunction with your ID to verify identity.
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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In Danmark we have a national two factor authenticator system which is tied up to your national ID, means all logins to banks, public offices, national e-box, online payments with credit etc. requires authentication with 'mitID' (myID) as a two factor system.
We do have id.me here.
 
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[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
Dec 15, 2015
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So, uh... what about all the other porn sites on the internet?
I'm not even sure how that's supposed to happen. The US/Florida doesn't do any kind of content control on ISPs so I don't know in what form the enforcement is supposed to take.
 

ondma

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Mar 18, 2018
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Need another option. I think real age gating on the internet is needed. There also needs to be a secure system to do this without tracking, which is obviously not requiring you to submit a government ID.

I could see basically buying a secure token that the website can ping that says "Is this person over X" and the website gets a "yes/no" answer. Could also be used to enforce age-gating of social media and other online data collecting of children.
Buy the token from whom? Whoever sells the token has your private information. I suppose the state could set up some sort of official agency to distribute the tokens and keep the private information secret. At least until they get hacked. But even then, what would keep a person under 18 from using the token number of someone who is over 18? You could make it illegal, but the only way to prosecute it would be to get the token ID from the internet provider, then go to the the IP of where it was used from and make sure the legitimate ID holder was in fact there when they supposedly logged on.
 

trenchfoot

Lifer
Aug 5, 2000
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Yes, there are but that isn't the point. What happened to the party of small government and freedom?

What they want is a gov't so small that states rights take precedence over federal law of which gerrymandered Republican (Corporate) control is dominant and the freedom to control every form of social networking and news media so that "the truth (their version) shall prevail".
 

trenchfoot

Lifer
Aug 5, 2000
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Go full old school, Sears catalog .

Better yet, bring back Prohibition if they are really serious (of which they ain't) about striking down the temptations of the flesh and moral and religious decay of the mind and spirit. Let's see how that goes down in Florida. How convenient it is that the pompous pious prevaricators of the nation and particularly those of Florida can pick and choose verse that satisfies some political agenda without provoking a mass protest of the Church overstepping it's bounds.
 

VRAMdemon

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Aug 16, 2012
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Sam Alito wants to know if Pornhub has essays by Gore Vidal like Playboy used to.


It sounds like he overplayed the “Ignorance” card. He gets his adult content from "high-end" sites!! They have all the essays!

While Alito’s question might seem funny, it also creates the impression that only serious essays merit free speech protection, and nothing else, which doesn’t seem to be in line with what the First Amendment actually says. A Supreme Court judge who doesn’t know what the first amendment actually says? If Alito thinks only words are protected free speech, how does he explain his support for Citizens United?

This is why we have a legal age, it is a parents responsibility to safeguard their kids, not the governments. Anyway, kids will find a way to look at porn online. They want an age verification to check and see who is watching porn. Control of a persons life is the "Christian" way of doing things.
 
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