Definitely curious to see what Nevis/A530 is like.Also, is time to see hoy A530 is. Now I am thinking that is about to ditch the In Order Core unless they release an A630 variant being Out of Order, but based on the A530.
Let's make an analogy between that and the Mediatek 8400.purple line (8 core) shows its more efficient at any power level?
How ARM can fix the current situation?Definitely curious to see what Nevis/A530 is like.
A5xx has so far been underwhelming to say the least in perf/watt over A55, and it's not like streamer sticks are going to just start jumping to A7xx simply because ARM now label it as the efficiency core.
That's just the smartphone/tablet market.Of course Mediatek and Qualcomm will start to see it for the middle tier (Snapdragon 6 Gen X or Dimensity 7X00). Similar to Exynos (Exynos 1X80), leaving the A5XX for the low tier processors and for IoT stuff.
Well... there is the Mediatek Pentonic series which uses only Big Cores too.That's just the smartphone/tablet market.
There's a whole huge ecosystem of consumer electronics that has typically used the lesser A5x cores up until now, including TVs.
Plenty of other SoC ODMs out there like Amlogic, Rockchip, Allwinner and others.
In order cores are starting to be totally obsolete and is time to move on.
Funny story in most devices like Watches or smart bands will get their time too.Please tell me you mean "in phones and computers."
Funny story in most devices like Watches or smart bands will get their time too.
Only in IoT and dumber devices can use those In Order Cores.
Expected since In Order are really old. However eventually it should change since out of order is shown to be superior.Probably 90% of apps cores and 99.9%+ of non-apps cores that ship in a given year are in-order.
Depends on the type.Funny story in most devices like Watches or smart bands will get their time too.
Expected since In Order are really old. However eventually it should change since out of order is shown to be superior.
There are many places where the simplicity of in-order is an advantage. Especially when it allows for less errata.
But in phones as part of the user-visible CPU clusters? It seems they may be on the way out.
Not only phones, also devices which the user has to interact with. And of course In order will be dominant, but it already reached the limit and out of order won't dissapear since is for more complex operations, also has more potential in the long term.There are many places where the simplicity of in-order is an advantage. Especially when it allows for less errata.
But in phones as part of the user-visible CPU clusters? It seems they may be on the way out.
That sounds interesting. Maybe In Order might have succesors and is time to see how fares in that matter.There is LSC/FC with Restricted Out-of-Order capability...
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So, there are alternatives to pure Out-of-Order and pure In-Order. I see rOoO/sOoO taking over in-place of InO/OoO.
Cortex-A600 can't come out sooner.
Too quick! Things gonna get interesting fast!But with just one core and lower freq.
A quick look over those alternatives show them to be pretty recent academic work, and thus unlikely to be in any commercialised product earlier than 2030.There is LSC/FC with Restricted Out-of-Order capability...
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So, there are alternatives to pure Out-of-Order and pure In-Order. I see rOoO/sOoO taking over in-place of InO/OoO.
Cortex-A600 can't come out sooner.
There was the A68, but I expect a rework in the A6XX line and become an Out of Order alternative of the A5XX.A quick look over those alternatives show them to be pretty recent academic work, and thus unlikely to be in any commercialised product earlier than 2030.
As to A6xx, I did see something in this Asian rumour website months ago.
The same one that got the 'Logan' name wrong for X5/X925, which referenced a name alongside Travis/X930, claiming it was between A5xx and A7xx in perf.
I'll have to hunt it down again and see if I can find it.
Indeed, that one.Do you mean A65/E1?
Well that's pointless.but I expect a rework in the A6XX line and become an Out of Order alternative of the A5XX.