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Viper1j

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Immigration agents attempted to enter Hamline Elementary School in Chicago, school district says​

Chicago Public School officials say federal immigration agents came to a school in the Back of the Yards neighborhood on Chicago’s South Side Friday.

However, a spokesman for Immigration and Customs Enforcement, or ICE, denied it was the agency.



“This was not an U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement encounter,” David L. Yost said in an email.

CPS officials say the agents identified themselves as part of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security. ICE is part of Homeland Security. They said the agents did not have a warrant and were turned away from Hamline Elementary School, according to the officials.

School district leaders, along with union and community organization leaders, were on site to support the school. They said the incident shows school district protocols worked to keep children safe.

The Chicago Police Department was unaware of ICE’s presence and didn’t respond to the school, a CPD spokesperson said.

Gov. JB Pritzker weighed in Friday afternoon with a message on X, saying, “After a week of Republicans sowing fear and chaos, the first reports of raids in Chicago are at an elementary school. Targeting children and separating families is cruel and un-American.”

Hamline Principal Natasha Ortega said that at about 11:15 a.m. agents came to the school building. They were met by the security guards and clerk who called her.

She said the school followed protocols. Chicago Public Schools officials said they only allow immigration agents in with a signed criminal warrant. Because the agents at Hamline did not have one, they were told they would not be allowed in, CPS officials said. They would not say how many agents were at the door or whether they were looking for a specific child or adult.


“I am very grateful to all of our Hamline staff here for upholding all of our protocols and ensuring the safety of our students,” Ortega said. “We will not open our doors for ICE, and we are here to protect our children and make sure they have access to an excellent education. We stand in solidarity with our families and the back of the yards community.”

This is the first report of immigration agents at schools since President Donald Trump took office on Monday. Trump has promised mass deportation of people without legal status and his administration indicated that Chicago would be a target.

Trump also reversed long-standing policy that prevented immigration agents from targeting schools for enforcement actions. But Chicago Public Schools prevents agents from entering schools, except in the rare situations where they have signed criminal warrants.

CPS has been holding training sessions with principals, clerks and security guards so they know exactly what to do if immigration agents show up at schools. The school district also has designated three lawyers on call to review documents that immigration agents might present.

Increase the Peace and the Resurrection Project, two community groups that work in Back of the Yards, also were at the school, which is 92% Latino, with 69% of students learning English. They have been going door to door making sure parents know they are supported and know their rights.

“We have a constitution, right?” said Berto Aguayo, president of Increase the Peace.

He said the main message he wants parents to know is their children are not in danger at school.


“Everybody in the community should expect to continue to send their kids safely to school,” he said. “This is proof of that.

CPS leaders and Chicago Teachers Union leaders, who were meeting when this incident happened, rushed to the school. The head of Chicago’s principals association also came.

CTU President Stacy Davis Gates called the incident unprecedented and said that she was there to support her members, who are teachers and other staff. She expressed gratitude for the security staff who she said are on the front line protecting children. She said she wants the families to know that teachers and others have “their back.”

This is a developing story. Check back for updates.
 
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manly

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Aside from kneecapping farmers and sparking a fresh bout of food inflation, is there anything dumber than an ICE raid on an elementary school? Except that we know it's calculated, Trump and Stephen Miller must really believe in family separation as a deterrence to illegal border crossings.
 

Jaskalas

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Back in my day... you'd just walk in from the street to any classroom. No locks. Doors might even be open on a warm day.
I do remember when they added chain link around the local schools.

So... uhh... when did they turn schools into a fortress with security guards that can turn away officers / federal agents?
Cause... damn, if that isn't a statement. Maybe it's a midwest / big city thing....

So. WTF is ICE doing targeting elementary kids?
 

nakedfrog

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Back in my day... you'd just walk in from the street to any classroom. No locks. Doors might even be open on a warm day.
I do remember when they added chain link around the local schools.

So... uhh... when did they turn schools into a fortress with security guards that can turn away officers / federal agents?
Cause... damn, if that isn't a statement. Maybe it's a midwest / big city thing....

So. WTF is ICE doing targeting elementary kids?
After we had school shooting after school shooting, this was our solution. My oldest kid graduated a decade ago, and even then you couldn't just walk into the school, in a rural Midwest town of less than 10k people (we didn't even have a Walmart, it was Dollar General territory).

Oh, also on that note.

 

Viper1j

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Back in my day... you'd just walk in from the street to any classroom. No locks. Doors might even be open on a warm day.
I do remember when they added chain link around the local schools.

So... uhh... when did they turn schools into a fortress with security guards that can turn away officers / federal agents?
Cause... damn, if that isn't a statement. Maybe it's a midwest / big city thing....

So. WTF is ICE doing targeting elementary kids?
Trump needs some maids and party girls at Mar a Lardo.

Herr Miller was already on Faux crying about it.

I would have loved to see PeeWee German whine.
 
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MrSquished

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I have yet to hear about ICE in any red states, but have heard of ICE raids in Cali, NJ, NY and IL so far. Any news I'm missing?
 

Indus

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I have yet to hear about ICE in any red states, but have heard of ICE raids in Cali, NJ, NY and IL so far. Any news I'm missing?

Yeah crash the blue state economy and get rid of FEMA.

It's all part of the plan!
 

nakedfrog

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I have yet to hear about ICE in any red states, but have heard of ICE raids in Cali, NJ, NY and IL so far. Any news I'm missing?
Only social media (so take it with a grain of salt), but reports of ICE vehicles active in Seattle, and at a high school in Everett (north of Seattle).
 

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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Yeah crash the blue state economy and get rid of FEMA.

It's all part of the plan!
Oh it's going to start in the red states. There are a shitload of Red State officials from Governor on down that want to deport some non-white people from their states.

I'm just wondering when
 

sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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True, the founders were slaveowners and had money.
They were starting a thing that was going to improve on that. Don't dismiss them because they were impure, just as you don't dismiss yourself because you have a Carbon foot print. We all live in the world made before us, even while we change it.
 

JTsyo

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Oh it's going to start in the red states. There are a shitload of Red State officials from Governor on down that want to deport some non-white people from their states.

I'm just wondering when
If red states will use state resources to go after immigrants then that leaves ICE more manpower to operate in blue states.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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I have yet to hear about ICE in any red states, but have heard of ICE raids in Cali, NJ, NY and IL so far. Any news I'm missing?
That's the point. News reports about all the illegals being found in blue states (if you don't test, cases go down, remember?)
 

esquared

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Wonder what they're going to do about all the undocumented folks working in all the heartland states that process meat, beef, pork, chicken and the dairy farms.

One farmer, in Wisconsin that would go on record said that half the workers in these farms are undocumented. He was certain the syphilitic orange menace would not report the workers.
I'll look for the link.

edit:
Still looking for that interview but there's this read.


Found it within another interview.
It's on the first two minutes of this CNN interview.
 
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Oric

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I thought an Internal Combustion Engine misfired because of an worn-out trigger belt
 

Viper1j

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It's getting worse.

Welcome to 1932.

Where the fuck will they deport them to?


Navajo Nation leaders address reports of ICE detaining tribal citizens​

Navajo Nation officials have contacted the governors of Arizona and New Mexico to address concerns about Navajo citizens being detained by ICE.

In response to President Donald Trump's executive order targeting the deportation of immigrants in the country illegally, Acting Navajo Nation Deputy Attorney General Kris Beecher recommended that tribal members carry their Certificate of Indian Blood along with other forms of identification.

Social media has been flooded with posts about Navajo citizens being detained by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement and questioned about their U.S. citizenship.

The unverified reports of people being detained and what leaders were doing to keep their citizens safe were discussed at a Navajo Nation committee meeting on Thursday. Beecher said Navajo Nation executive officials had contacted New Mexico and Arizona governors' offices with concerns.

"The biggest takeaway from that meeting ... was really encouraging the safety of Navajos," Beecher said. He encouraged leaders, when talking with their constituents, to urge them to carry IDs "whether they're state, federal, passport, if they have a tribal ID ... and I think that would include Certificate of Indian Blood."

State Sen. Theresa Hatathlie informed the council about a Navajo citizen who was detained for nine hours, underscoring the urgent need for emergency protocols. She emphasized that many tribal members face challenges with documentation. She said despite having Certificates of Indian Blood and state-issued IDs, several individuals have been detained or questioned by ICE agents who fail to recognize these documents as valid proof of citizenship, according to the Navajo Nation Council's news release.

"I agree with having your CIB on your phone. That's not a bad idea. These are good things to have with you," he said.

On Monday, Trump signed 10 sweeping executive actions related to border security and immigration enforcement.

Tribal Council delegates said they have been contacted by Navajo citizens in Phoenix stating they were detained by ICE. Beecher said tribal officials were working to verify those claims and address them.

The Navajo Nation's Washington office has contacted the U.S. Department of Homeland Security to determine best practices for Navajo citizens and other tribal members to ensure they have proper identification. In addition, the Navajo Department of Justice has reached out to tribes in the southern part of the state, consulting with their governments and attorneys general, who so far have reported no noticeable increase in interactions or enforcement actions involving ICE.

"We as the Navajo Nation and the leaders have to be respectful and positive with interactions with any law enforcement. We encourage your constituents to carry the IDs necessary," Beecher told the leaders. "We need to stay safe with our interaction with law enforcement outside of the Navajo Nation."

Concerns for unsheltered tribal members in urban areas​

Navajo Nation Speaker Crystalyne Curley said even if the tribe's executive office did not have names or records of people who were detained, officials didn't have to wait until someone was detained to react.

"Even if we don't have verified numbers but we do have these families who are fearful already ... I am not going to rely on the Office of the President and Vice President to say, 'No, we are going to wait for a verified case before we intervene,'" Curley said. "I think there needs to be a protocol or system put into place before we even get that verified information."

She emphasized the importance of leaders taking the initiative and making sound judgments for the well-being of the people. She highlighted the need for a structured system, noting that other tribes already had implemented frameworks with extended hours to provide support for those in need.

"This isn't our first time going through something like this, but we should be there to provide additional resources," Curley said. "I'm worried about our unsheltered relatives that are in the metropolitan areas. They may be on the streets with no identifications."

Beecher gave recommendations on what the Navajo Nation could do to help its citizens:

  • Set up a dedicated phone number, website, and email address that individuals or their relatives could use to seek assistance or request help for those who have been detained.
  • Address challenges with the Navajo tribal identification card and explore the possibility of rolling it out to urban areas, such as Phoenix, Tucson and other cities, to better serve Navajos living in metropolitan areas.
  • Establish a dedicated hotline for law enforcement, providing direct access to the Navajo Office of Vital Records & Identification to verify an individual’s identity.

Few Navajo Nation tribal ID cards have been issued​

The Navajo identification card was launched under the leadership of the late former Navajo Nation President Ben Shelly, who collaborated with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security. Of the approximately 400,000 enrolled Navajo members, only 8,000 tribal identification cards have been issued since their introduction in 2012.

"How come not all departments, outside entities are recognizing our IDs?" said Ron Duncan, program manager at the Navajo Office of Vital Records and Identification. "It's because they're scarce, they've never really seen it. Partly, because we are lacking in capacity."

Those who don't have a tribal ID should be prioritized now, Duncan said.

In a statement from Navajo President Buu Nygren on Wednesday night, he said his office had fielded concerns and unconfirmed reports that urban Diné relatives were being questioned and detained by immigration officials.

"My office is looking into this matter and will provide updates as they come," Nygren said.

For their safety, he urged Navajo tribal members to be aware of their surroundings and carry valid forms of identification, such as a Certificate of Indian Birth or state-issued driver’s license.

"I am working actively with our state leaders and law enforcement to protect our Diné people," Nygren said.

Curley emphasized the immediate need for the executive branch to issue protocols for tribal members living off the reservation.

“Our people are reaching out to us directly, and their needs are urgent,” Curley said. “We must act swiftly to ensure their safety and well-being. Our constituents are depending on us for solutions.”

Tip line​

On Friday, Nygren said that although his office has only received a few unconfirmed reports, staff have followed up on those leads and are designating the “Operation Rainbow Bridge” tip line to field calls on this issue.

"My administration has been working with other tribal leaders in the Southwest near the border who are more familiar with this issue," said Nygren. "My office has also been in contact with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, the U.S. Immigrations and Customs Enforcement, state and federal Senate and House representatives, and the office of the governors for Arizona and New Mexico."

He reiterated that Navajos should carry state-issued identification, such as a driver’s license or other picture identification if available.

"Having your state ID is crucial, and if you possess a CIB, it can provide an additional layer of reassurance," Nygren said. "If you do run into issues with federal immigration officials, reach out to our office through Operation Rainbow Bridge."

"We encourage individuals to remain calm and assured that our collaborative efforts with local, state, and federal law enforcement are ongoing to ensure community safety," he said.

Tip line:

•⁠ ⁠Phone: 855-435-7672

•⁠ ⁠Email: Operationrainbowbridge.com

•⁠ ⁠Website: info@operationrainbowbridge.com
 

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Immigration agents attempted to enter Hamline Elementary School in Chicago, school district says​

Chicago Public School officials say federal immigration agents came to a school in the Back of the Yards neighborhood on Chicago’s South Side Friday.

However, a spokesman for Immigration and Customs Enforcement, or ICE, denied it was the agency.



“This was not an U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement encounter,” David L. Yost said in an email.

CPS officials say the agents identified themselves as part of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security. ICE is part of Homeland Security. They said the agents did not have a warrant and were turned away from Hamline Elementary School, according to the officials.

School district leaders, along with union and community organization leaders, were on site to support the school. They said the incident shows school district protocols worked to keep children safe.

The Chicago Police Department was unaware of ICE’s presence and didn’t respond to the school, a CPD spokesperson said.

Gov. JB Pritzker weighed in Friday afternoon with a message on X, saying, “After a week of Republicans sowing fear and chaos, the first reports of raids in Chicago are at an elementary school. Targeting children and separating families is cruel and un-American.”

Hamline Principal Natasha Ortega said that at about 11:15 a.m. agents came to the school building. They were met by the security guards and clerk who called her.

She said the school followed protocols. Chicago Public Schools officials said they only allow immigration agents in with a signed criminal warrant. Because the agents at Hamline did not have one, they were told they would not be allowed in, CPS officials said. They would not say how many agents were at the door or whether they were looking for a specific child or adult.


“I am very grateful to all of our Hamline staff here for upholding all of our protocols and ensuring the safety of our students,” Ortega said. “We will not open our doors for ICE, and we are here to protect our children and make sure they have access to an excellent education. We stand in solidarity with our families and the back of the yards community.”

This is the first report of immigration agents at schools since President Donald Trump took office on Monday. Trump has promised mass deportation of people without legal status and his administration indicated that Chicago would be a target.

Trump also reversed long-standing policy that prevented immigration agents from targeting schools for enforcement actions. But Chicago Public Schools prevents agents from entering schools, except in the rare situations where they have signed criminal warrants.

CPS has been holding training sessions with principals, clerks and security guards so they know exactly what to do if immigration agents show up at schools. The school district also has designated three lawyers on call to review documents that immigration agents might present.

Increase the Peace and the Resurrection Project, two community groups that work in Back of the Yards, also were at the school, which is 92% Latino, with 69% of students learning English. They have been going door to door making sure parents know they are supported and know their rights.

“We have a constitution, right?” said Berto Aguayo, president of Increase the Peace.

He said the main message he wants parents to know is their children are not in danger at school.


“Everybody in the community should expect to continue to send their kids safely to school,” he said. “This is proof of that.

CPS leaders and Chicago Teachers Union leaders, who were meeting when this incident happened, rushed to the school. The head of Chicago’s principals association also came.

CTU President Stacy Davis Gates called the incident unprecedented and said that she was there to support her members, who are teachers and other staff. She expressed gratitude for the security staff who she said are on the front line protecting children. She said she wants the families to know that teachers and others have “their back.”

This is a developing story. Check back for updates.
Read the revised story in your link.
 

KMFJD

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it was secret service looking for an 11 year old that posted an anti trump video

 
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it was secret service looking for an 11 year old that posted an anti trump video

Consider it updated.
 

outriding

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Would like to see the video.

But would it be against the law to talk to a minor with out their parents there?

So why would they show up to the school list parents are not there

But my bet the orange snowflake ordered it

Jesus why did anyone vote for him ever
 

outriding

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So. Secret service and ICE report to DHS

So the left hand has no idea what the right hand is doing. Great
 

Viper1j

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Would like to see the video.

But would it be against the law to talk to a minor with out their parents there?

So why would they show up to the school list parents are not there

But my bet the orange snowflake ordered it

Jesus why did anyone vote for him ever
Anyone consider the possibility they were going to "disappear" the kid to a private room in Guantánamo Bay? 🤔
 
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