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Indus

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She's a liberal.. infact she's a hardcore lefty.



Maybe she's got a point..

Use that point to subsidize our lifestyle!
 

pmv

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She's a liberal.. infact she's a hardcore lefty.

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Maybe she's got a point..

Use that point to subsidize our lifestyle!



Who is this person?

Anyway, hardcore leftists have historically been quite keen on the death penalty - every communist state has had it. Heck, in the early days of the Bolshevik takeover, the Red side behaved like wishy-washy liberals and released captured White generals on parole, only to find they went back to their armies and resumed fighting against them. The Commies took a while to wise up and start shooting the blighters.

I'm a bit ambivalent, myself. I don't have any absolute fundamental 'life is sacred' objection to it, because I'm not a Christian (weird, though, how so many American 'Christians' are actually strongly in favour of it, the opposite of what I would expect from a Christian). I just think in practice it tends to be employed in a very biased manner, and sends the wrong message to society, and doesn't have the deterrent effect that its supposed to. Hence in practice I'm mostly against it. But that doesn't mean I don't find myself thinking there are people who deserve to get it.
 
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nakedfrog

No Lifer
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Who is this person?

Anyway, hardcore leftists have historically been quite keen on the death penalty - every communist state has had it. Heck, in the early days of the Bolshevik takeover, the Red side behaved like wishy-washy liberals and released captured White generals on parole, only to find they went back to their armies and resumed fighting against them. The Commies took a while to wise up and start shooting the blighters.

I'm a bit ambivalent, myself. I don't have any absolute fundamental 'life is sacred' objection to it, because I'm not a Christian (weird, though, how so many American 'Christians' are actually strongly in favour of it, the opposite of what I would expect from a Christian). I just think in practice it tends to be employed in a very biased manner, and sends the wrong message to society, and doesn't have the deterrent effect that its supposed to. Hence in practice I'm mostly against it. But that doesn't mean I don't find myself thinking there are people who deserve to get it.
We also can't trust the state to not misuse it, or to not use it on people who weren't actually guilty of the crime with with they were charged. Kind of a problem.
People have been banging that "have pay-per-view executions" drum since the 90s at least. I'm pretty sure this would in fact make every issue around the death penalty worse.
 

Indus

Lifer
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We also can't trust the state to not misuse it, or to not use it on people who weren't actually guilty of the crime with with they were charged. Kind of a problem.
People have been banging that "have pay-per-view executions" drum since the 90s at least. I'm pretty sure this would in fact make every issue around the death penalty worse.

There are lessons from history that you can't vote out fascists.

It takes a revolution.
 
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pmv

Lifer
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We also can't trust the state to not misuse it, or to not use it on people who weren't actually guilty of the crime with with they were charged. Kind of a problem.

Yeah, that too. Plays into the other problems, insofar as you have to have so many elaborate provisions to avoid an irreversible mistake that it ends up being both very expensive, and, again, not much of a deterrent. And the "pay per view" idea just compounds the problem of the bad message it sends and the unpleasant effects it has on those implementing it.

All that said, I often read about some horrendous crime and find myself thinking "the person who did that should be removed from this world". I certainly don't feel particularly sad when some murderer or torturer meets their demise. Just that I think institutionalising the practice causes more harm than good, on balance.
 
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Indus

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Fenixgoon

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I guess we're in a country where real christians are under assault by FAKE christians in power!

Maybe Madison Cawthorne had a point about the Fake Christians and their orgies on capitol hill?
That's some seriously dumb shit. Like, give a citation or warning or something. I get that fire codes exist for a reason. But this is a serious misapplication of the law.
 
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That's some seriously dumb shit. Like, give a citation or warning or something. I get that fire codes exist for a reason. But this is a serious misapplication of the law.
No surprise to me, during hurricane Harvey our Church was feeding/clothing/sheltering victims and we were informed that if we allowed any of them to sleep in our Church we'd be cited since we were not an "approved" emergency shelter. Same thing that so many have found out in North Carolina. It's a multi-billion $ business providing shelter for people.
 
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UNCjigga

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I personally think it's your last paragraph.
We were right!!!
So this whole MD/NJ/NY drone thing…I have some thoughts.

Earlier, when drones were reported over several military bases and proving grounds, I was convinced that these drones were a form of foreign espionage/counterintelligence—probably related to China or Russia.

But now—I’m more and more convinced that the federal government saying “no big deal” means that these drones are an inside job—I think the US military and associated contractors are testing new equipment and accidentally let the cat out of the bag without having any talking points or PR strategy.

Another possibility—some private outfit is testing some newfangled drone taxi thingy and they got FAA clearance—and the government doesn’t want to admit that someone fucked up and let them fly where they shouldn’t have.
Yup, FAA cleared them. Why the Biden Administration couldn’t just put out a coherent press release to that effect instead of letting speculation/conspiracies run rampant is just beyond me. Just another example of Dems losing the messaging war.

Gotta give credit to Trump’s WHPS where it’s due.

 

hal2kilo

Lifer
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We were right!!!

Yup, FAA cleared them. Why the Biden Administration couldn’t just put out a coherent press release to that effect instead of letting speculation/conspiracies run rampant is just beyond me. Just another example of Dems losing the messaging war.

Gotta give credit to Trump’s WHPS where it’s due.

It's really a mystery to me, what communication gaff by the Biden admin caused this ridiculousness, considering the fad today of making conspiracies about any BS.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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It's really a mystery to me, what communication gaff by the Biden admin caused this ridiculousness, considering the fad today of making conspiracies about any BS.
Honestly? It was probably something classified and they wanted to get the operation done with before anyone could get there to start snooping around. The US has used conspiracies as cover for shit for like a century.
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
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Honestly? It was probably something classified and they wanted to get the operation done with before anyone could get there to start snooping around. The US has used conspiracies as cover for shit for like a century.
What they are doing LIDAR surveys, because they found that an ancient alien civilization use to exist in NO NJ?
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
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On a drone? Naw. Far more likely to be testing AI-backed target tracking in a populated urban environment.
They use drones all the time for LIDAR surveys now. That's why we know that the Mayan's had bigger cities than Egypt at one time.
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
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A give away that they are doing some kind of mapping is that they are "mowing the lawn". i.e. a back and forth pattern.
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
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Well, well, those seemingly mostly conservatives making a big stink about unknown drones have been told by their trusted source, I call her cutie pie, that "They are not the enemy". Again, create something very probably bad, and fix it. Oh, look over there.. meanwhile the billionaires keep getting rich.
 
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