I'm excited for pcgeek to suffer the consequences of being a shitty person.
I admit to a bit of satisfaction knowing that he, and pretty much also his children, very happily voted to put themselves in the position where they have to choose either bankruptcy in keeping this old fuck healthy, or wheeling his stubborn flesh husk out to the mountain for the vultures to feed on because it will be the only humane option in the world that they want.
You know there are a lot of smart people around here who feel exactly like you do but in reverse, right? I mean exactly.Holy fucking shit why are you this fucking stupid? I mean, I know it's this obtuseness that allows you to vote for a fucking criminal conman rapist like Trump multiple times, but seriously: when he is only ever lying to your face, and you fucking know this, what makes you pick and choose the lies that you want to believe?
What the fuck happened to your brain? Seriously.
Was it decades being crammed into tiny spaces with salty seamen and huffing diesel fumes and man sweat? Is this what fucked you entirely?
Aren't you glad that you voted to have Trump eliminate your VA benefits and medicare, which he constantly promised to do, what with all of your chronic knee and general health issues?
Holy fucking shit why are you this fucking stupid? I mean, I know it's this obtuseness that allows you to vote for a fucking criminal conman rapist like Trump multiple times, but seriously: when he is only ever lying to your face, and you fucking know this, what makes you pick and choose the lies that you want to believe?
What the fuck happened to your brain? Seriously.
Was it decades being crammed into tiny spaces with salty seamen and huffing diesel fumes and man sweat? Is this what fucked you entirely?
Aren't you glad that you voted to have Trump eliminate your VA benefits and medicare, which he constantly promised to do, what with all of your chronic knee and general health issues?
Truth has been out of style for 3 decades anyway. Recently it's been thrown under the bus.We're in a post truth world where the billionaires have the media and every 5 minutes they're convincing your minds you didn't see what you saw.. your eyes are fucking lying to you!
Some people never had very strong minds in the first place.. but they don't need to convince all of them.. just enough of them to keep them in line and voting for them.
As I said in another thread, the day is coming like it has in the past.We're in a post truth world where the billionaires have the media and every 5 minutes they're convincing your minds you didn't see what you saw.. your eyes are fucking lying to you!
Some people never had very strong minds in the first place.. but they don't need to convince all of them.. just enough of them to keep them in line and voting for them.
No matter how many or what the lies are, he seems quite content with his tribe
All of our polititians seem to be multi-multi-millionaires. I think the problem is them taking the money not the people offering it.As I said in another thread, the day is coming like it has in the past.
Old cartoon about the Robber Barons looks awfully similar to today.
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Are you a fan of AOC? She doesn’t take lobbyist money.All of our polititians seem to be multi-multi-millionaires. I think the problem is them taking the money not the people offering it.
They come in with limited resources and leave with 100 million dollars. The Obamas are a great example, I give them credit, they made their fortune in Washington in 8 years, usually takes 30 or 40. The Biden Crime Syndicate of course were masters and took it to another level. It got so bad Biden had to "pre-pardon" the whole lot of them, thus removing any possibility of being labeled a "convicted felon."
"Show me the man and I will show you the crime."
All of our polititians seem to be multi-multi-millionaires. I think the problem is them taking the money not the people offering it.
They come in with limited resources and leave with 100 million dollars. The Obamas are a great example, I give them credit, they made their fortune in Washington in 8 years, usually takes 30 or 40. The Biden Crime Syndicate of course were masters and took it to another level. It got so bad Biden had to "pre-pardon" the whole lot of them, thus removing any possibility of being labeled a "convicted felon."
"Show me the man and I will show you the crime."
-Clinton and Obama expanded their net worth a lot during their presidencies (mostly speaking fees and books), and Clinton as added a ton of additional wealth since doing the same.
Ironically, Trump lost money during his presidency (and is thought to be the only president that has done so) but ended up doing extremely well for himself under Biden and has made up his loses and then some (So there is at least one American that did well under Biden's term). He is also the wealthiest president to hold office, followed distant second by JFK (who inherited his wealth).
Biden grew his net worth a modest amount almost entirely off of the two properties he owns in Delaware. Dude is worth like $10 million or something right now, which honestly isn't a lot of money in the grand scheme of things. Likely couldn't/didn't want to do nearly as many paid engagements or write books or anything else. He definitely won't die a pauper now, lot of people willing to pay to show off a President at one of their fancy galas or whatever.
2 things:
I highly doubt that Trump actually lost money during his 1st admin. Not with the way he bilked USSS for all of his golf trips, and the overt usage of his DC hotel as grift central.
Having a $10M net worth for someone of Biden's age and career is not what I'd consider out of line. In fact, he's probably below where he could/should be.
To your last point that’s already what @Hulk said.-For Trump it was likely due to the pandemic temporarily bottoming out the market and causing property values to fall. He can bilk the SS for a lot of money but that money is going to go somewhere where it should grow, not just under his mattress.
Agreed as far as Biden, his current net worth is not unreasonable at all. Enough to live out the remainder of his days comfortably, not so much that he clearly profited off the Presidency. I'm sure someone will be along soon to suggest he has all kinds of shadow money hidden in Burisma's corporate vaults or something...
And how is that different than the cartoon?All of our polititians seem to be multi-multi-millionaires. I think the problem is them taking the money not the people offering it.
They come in with limited resources and leave with 100 million dollars. The Obamas are a great example, I give them credit, they made their fortune in Washington in 8 years, usually takes 30 or 40. The Biden Crime Syndicate of course were masters and took it to another level. It got so bad Biden had to "pre-pardon" the whole lot of them, thus removing any possibility of being labeled a "convicted felon."
"Show me the man and I will show you the crime."
I like that she doesn't take lobbyist money. I think her heart is in the right place.Are you a fan of AOC? She doesn’t take lobbyist money.
You are correct. I mistakely thought this was pointing blame at one party and not both.
All of our polititians seem to be multi-multi-millionaires. I think the problem is them taking the money not the people offering it.
"Show me the man and I will show you the crime."
One more than the other but yes.You are correct. I mistakely thought this was pointing blame at one party and not both.
Ah! And there it is! It's the "system." Didn't take long at all to get to the bottom of it. We must prevent people from excelling by taking from them when the rest of us say they have "enough." And that is an arbitrary line that is based on our current "feelings."Well good luck in finding saint-like, perfect, incorruptible people who won't ever take the money. Seems to me the problem is the existence of people with all that money available to offer. A system that produces such people is always going to be corrupted.
Can you provide a clear example of her not wanting to follow the law?Unfortunately her head is not. She either doesn't know or want to follow the law.
Ah! And there it is! It's the "system." Didn't take long at all to get to the bottom of it. We must prevent people from excelling by taking from them when the rest of us say they have "enough." And that is an arbitrary line that is based on our current "feelings."
Do you know of a better system? Perhaps communism where everything is equitable and perfect?
Back to communism, right? Because it has proven to work so well, you know Stalin, Pot, and Castro were such great leaders. What? Only 100 million deaths and countless more that lived in suffering during their "fair and equitable" reigns of terror.
At least with democracy we can vote these people out now and then. With communism you get a strongman in for life. Fascism, communism, dictatorship, they are all the same. Strongman in power, controlling the military and doing what he wants. Whenever free elections are eliminated the result is always the same, crazy strongman in charge.
If you think Trump is a crazy strongman that is your right and I fully defend it. But at least our system gets rid of the strongman after 4 years and puts great limits on what he can do.
I wish I were smart, driven, lucky, or whatever enough to be super rich. I'm not. I'm just one of the little people slogging it out day-by-day. But I don't want to limit those or take from those who have done better than me. Good for them.
I'll be honest. Sometimes when I see Taylor Swift, or Oprah, or Musk, or whatever I think "that's too much." Think of how much good all of that wealth could do if it weren't spent on people wiping those peoples' behinds 24/7? But I know that is the rabbit hole of the mob ganging up on the super successful... just because they can. Let's cap them at 100 million, no 10 million, no 2 million, who needs more than 2 million a year to live? It's all based on nothing but "feelings."
No, for all the flaws of a democracy it's the best system yet devised.
Ah! And there it is! It's the "system." Didn't take long at all to get to the bottom of it. We must prevent people from excelling by taking from them when the rest of us say they have "enough." And that is an arbitrary line that is based on our current "feelings."
Do you know of a better system? Perhaps communism where everything is equitable and perfect?
Back to communism, right? Because it has proven to work so well, you know Stalin, Pot, and Castro were such great leaders. What? Only 100 million deaths and countless more that lived in suffering during their "fair and equitable" reigns of terror.
At least with democracy we can vote these people out now and then. With communism you get a strongman in for life. Fascism, communism, dictatorship, they are all the same. Strongman in power, controlling the military and doing what he wants. Whenever free elections are eliminated the result is always the same, crazy strongman in charge.
If you think Trump is a crazy strongman that is your right and I fully defend it. But at least our system gets rid of the strongman after 4 years and puts great limits on what he can do.
I wish I were smart, driven, lucky, or whatever enough to be super rich. I'm not. I'm just one of the little people slogging it out day-by-day. But I don't want to limit those or take from those who have done better than me. Good for them.
I'll be honest. Sometimes when I see Taylor Swift, or Oprah, or Musk, or whatever I think "that's too much." Think of how much good all of that wealth could do if it weren't spent on people wiping those peoples' behinds 24/7? But I know that is the rabbit hole of the mob ganging up on the super successful... just because they can. Let's cap them at 100 million, no 10 million, no 2 million, who needs more than 2 million a year to live? It's all based on nothing but "feelings."
No, for all the flaws of a democracy it's the best system yet devised.
They are organizational systems for groups of humans.I mean you speak as if the choices are "democracy" or "communism", as if those are opposing sides of an axis. Those are not the same kind of things, the first is about political organisation, the latter about economics. The choice is "capitalism" or "communism", and it's looking as if _neither_ is compatible with democracy. They just undermine it in different ways over different time-scales.
(Why aren't you counting all the deaths that capitalism has caused, incidentally?)
They are organizational systems for groups of humans.
In one system there is voting, that's a democracy. In the others there isn't, communism, fascism, dictator, and everything else.
Go ahead count deaths from Capitolism. Just remember it's easily 100 million for the others in the last 100 years.
Also count the millions of lives saved by Capitalism. You know things like vaccines, computers, and other technologies invented by people to "make a buck" that would have never occured otherwise.
Ever wonder why South Korea is in the stone age? Well, there's your paradise sans capitalism. How much tech came out of the Soviet Union compared to the US over the same period. Or Japan vs. Pol Pot's China?
Please, don't be ridiculous as you turn on your air conditioner (Carrier) or drive your car (Ford) or use your cell phone (Jobs et al).
Just stop arguing to argue. You can deny human desire to achieve and create and do better all you want. That experiment has been tried over and over again in the last 100 years and as noted above the result is 100 million dead and failed states and economies. It's always capitalism that saves a state.
You can even go back to the founding of the US with the original settlers when they tried communism and half of them starved to death the first winter. Bradford smartly was like, "okay, enough of that nonsense, you work your own land and you get what it produces."
I don't even know how we're arguing this honestly after the last 100 or so years of history.
The ONLY thing that stops Trump, Biden, Obama, Bush, or whomever from being a dictator is the Constitution of the US. They would all be enticed into absolute power without it.