Boom's XB-1 first supersonic test flight was this morning

WelshBloke

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I have to wonder if the demand for supersonic flight is as high as it was?
Like if you're in London and need an urgent meeting with someone in New York you can now video call people and collaboratively share documents.
If I'm on a holiday I'm not in that much if a rush. I'd be more into a comfortable plane that was part of the holiday experience.
 

IronWing

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I have to wonder if the demand for supersonic flight is as high as it was?
Like if you're in London and need an urgent meeting with someone in New York you can now video call people and collaboratively share documents.
If I'm on a holiday I'm not in that much if a rush. I'd be more into a comfortable plane that was part of the holiday experience.
While I would enjoy knowing that my passage was inflicting sonic booms on the peasants below, reports of the flight experience on the Concorde suggests that supersonic flight actually kind of sucks. The cabin got really hot as the A/C couldn't keep up with frictional heating of the plane.
 
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WelshBloke

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While I would enjoy knowing that my passage was inflicting sonic booms on the peasants below, reports of the flight experience on the Concorde suggests that supersonic flight actually kind of sucks. The cabin got really hot as the A/C couldn't keep up with frictional heating of the plane.
The cabin size is a lot smaller as well.
Personally I'm not a massive fan of flying halfway around the world but if I was I'd rather big reclining seats, a decent table and good food!
 
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JTsyo

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While I would enjoy knowing that my passage was inflicting sonic booms on the peasants below, reports of the flight experience on the Concorde suggests that supersonic flight actually kind of sucks. The cabin got really hot as the A/C couldn't keep up with frictional heating of the plane.
Do planes use AC? I thought they just piped in cold air and mixed it to get the temperature they wanted. Though for a supersonic plane, maybe they couldn't draw in air.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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Do planes use AC? I thought they just piped in cold air and mixed it to get the temperature they wanted. Though for a supersonic plane, maybe they couldn't draw in air.
I wouldn't be surprised to know that it's easier to deal with a compressor or two than the rube goldberg device required to mix outside air, warm air, and o2 in a way that doesn't accidentally suffocate all the passengers.
 

nakedfrog

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I wouldn't be surprised to know that it's easier to deal with a compressor or two than the rube goldberg device required to mix outside air, warm air, and o2 in a way that doesn't accidentally suffocate all the passengers.
This is interesting.

The environmental system on an aircraft is often called a “PACK.”

The air for an air cycle system is supplied by the engines. Excess air or bleed air is bled off from the engines and this hot air is routed through a primary heat exchanger to cool slightly then into the air cycle machine (ACM). In the air cycle machine, the air is compressed which raises its temperature again.

The heated and compressed air is sent through a secondary heat exchanger where cool outside ram air brings its temperature back down. The air next travels through the expansion turbine and into an expansion chamber where it chills to a near-freezing temperature. The cold air is sent into a water separator so the moisture can be removed.

Once the cold, dry air flows into the mixing box, a temperature mixing valve allows a small amount of hot engine air to be added as needed to reach the air temperature desired for the cabin. The perfectly cooled air flows into the cabin providing both pressurization and climate control.

 

Pohemi

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Not first civilian craft to go SS, but first privately-funded with no government or military assistance.
 
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JTsyo

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I wouldn't be surprised to know that it's easier to deal with a compressor or two than the rube goldberg device required to mix outside air, warm air, and o2 in a way that doesn't accidentally suffocate all the passengers.
Thing is you need an o2 supply. There probably isn't enough air in a closed plane for a 10 hour flight.
 
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