The removal of the IHS is very easy with the delid-mate
Took some pictures here
Cooling is the optimus signature v3 waterblock together with a very large cooling loop. (mora on a different level and 4 pumps in series)
The removal of the IHS is very easy with the delid-mateKeeping those die temps<80C while dissipating 300W is impressive.
If you have the time can you let me know what your cooling setup is and how hard it was to delid?
I'm considering moving to 9950X3D(X2).Anybody with a 9950X considering the 3D version when it comes out? Besides gaming what does the extra cache do for other applications?
As I wrote before, "I am like drunk with power already" but I need more.
I'm considering moving to 9950X3D(X2).
My main reasons to (side)upgrade are:
* gaming
* power consumption (better binned dies)
* big boost in database software
* help with 3D visualisation (viewport)
* running emulation software
* moar is better because is moar
* I had 7800X3D before ... miss that efficiency and responsiveness
* something new to play with
I don't know if AMD confirmed it for the 9950X3D. But the 7950X3D has a higher maximum frequency of the X3D CCD than the 7800X3D. And the 7950X had 1 good 1 low CCD. The 7950X3D had a good normal CCD and a good X3D CCD. Presumably they're doing the same here.I didn't know the 3D's are binned better?
Must resist the upgrade. Must resist.... ah, forget it. Resistance is futile.I don't know if AMD confirmed it for the 9950X3D. But the 7950X3D has a higher maximum frequency of the X3D CCD than the 7800X3D. And the 7950X had 1 good 1 low CCD. The 7950X3D had a good normal CCD and a good X3D CCD. Presumably they're doing the same here.
Anybody with a 9950X considering the 3D version when it comes out? Besides gaming what does the extra cache do for other applications?
As I wrote before, "I am like drunk with power already" but I need more.
Yes I do a lot of DAW work but modern CPU's are so fast I've never even gotten close to topping out my plugins. I mean 500 plugins in a mix? Might be time to start working on recording technique if you need 500 plugins!Ryzen 7000 Series X3D Performance Testing.
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I'm not sure if DAWBench results have any relevance to your workflow, but X3D is pretty strong in the VI testing at lower buffer settings.
The 9000s have unlocked multipliers though. It seems most 9800X3Ds do +200mhz, and beyond that the chip lottery becomes the main factor. So the 9950X3D might not be any better for games.I don't know if AMD confirmed it for the 9950X3D. But the 7950X3D has a higher maximum frequency of the X3D CCD than the 7800X3D. And the 7950X had 1 good 1 low CCD. The 7950X3D had a good normal CCD and a good X3D CCD. Presumably they're doing the same here.
Do you mean as in "only the non-stacked die is the binned one"?The 9000s have unlocked multipliers though. It seems most 9800X3Ds do +200mhz, and beyond that the chip lottery becomes the main factor. So the 9950X3D might not be any better for games.
I totally agree with your assessment of modern production approaches. One of my college instructors was fond of saying "you can't polish a turd". He hammered it into us that "fixing" it in the mix was not the proper approach. I pretty much still approach my mixes like we did back in the day only with plugins instead of hardware. Most of my tracks don't have more than a channel strip or an EQ/comp on them at mix time.Yes I do a lot of DAW work but modern CPU's are so fast I've never even gotten close to topping out my plugins. I mean 500 plugins in a mix? Might be time to start working on recording technique if you need 500 plugins!
We used to do it back in the day with 24 tracks, eq on each track from the board, some outboard compressors and fx. Done.
I watch videos of guys piling fx on a channel saying, "Hear that? Amazing right?" And I'm like I don't hear it? The song still stinks and whatever you did to that sound didn't help!
Sorry to be negative, couldn't help it. "Now a hear just a tiny bit of harshness on the vocal at 4.785938kHz that needs to be notched out!" Yeah, you're also notching out any character of that particular vocalist.
I have a bunch of UAD native plugs as well, they hit the CPU harder than Waves, Klanghelm, Fabfilter, Soundtoys, etc... Of course the reverbs are the ones that really eat the cycles.I totally agree with your assessment of modern production approaches. One of my college instructors was fond of saying "you can't polish a turd". He hammered it into us that "fixing" it in the mix was not the proper approach. I pretty much still approach my mixes like we did back in the day only with plugins instead of hardware. Most of my tracks don't have more than a channel strip or an EQ/comp on them at mix time.
I haven't really dug into the DAWBench testing methodology but I'm pretty sure that the plugin instances used for these tests are pretty light on CPU. 500 plugs in a mix is absolutely ridiculous regardless. I don't typically use more than 24-32 audio/instrument tracks (I really don't use VI's very much) and 8-12 stereo buses. I can still get dropouts at a 64 sample buffer if I'm using 1-3 UAD plugs on every track/bus. That could just be the driver for my interface or the PT2018 audio engine though. I should probably upgrade both.
If you're planning to go through the trouble of delidding, I really suggest you look into PBO as well:Keeping those die temps<80C while dissipating 300W is impressive.
If you have the time can you let me know what your cooling setup is and how hard it was to delid?
I'm good for now but I could get antsy, that's why I was inquiring.If you're planning to go through the trouble of delidding, I really suggest you look into PBO as well:
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Well, more precisely "PBO + undervolting (with curve optimizer and curve shaper)". Despite the disclaimer on enabling it, PBO can be a pure undervolt rather than overclocking (when you PPT, TDC and EDC properly).
Not using it certainly leaves more performance on the table than you get from only delidding:
From the linked post above (by @MarkPost)
To get even in the ballpark of @Det0x results you'll need both of course. And a golden sample and liquid metal, custom watercooling and lots of skill
I'm good for now but I could get antsy, that's why I was inquiring.
Det0x gets BIG numbers.
When the 9950X clocks up high on all cores it is extremely impressive.
200W is fine for now.
I can't answer for your specific kit, but MSI had announced their boards can run 192GB kits @6200MHz on Zen5 and here is a YT vid with 192GB G.Skill on 9950X @6000MHzHas anyone been able to run 2 high capacity DIMM (48 GB or 64 GB per DIMM) @ 6000 MHz on B650 with 9950x?
Specifically the Kingston Renegade kit of 2x48 GB (https://www.kingston.com/datasheets/KF560C32RSK2-96.pdf).
You also have to buy a new motherboard.Now I just have to buy ram and I can start that AM4 to AM5 upgrade.
Already have it asus prime 670e pro wifiYou also have to buy a new motherboard.
virtually any AM4 cooler will work on AM5. !Already have it asus prime 670e pro wifi
And a new AIO iCUE ELITE CPU Cooler since my current AIO is AM4 only.
Adding 2 more quick disconnects. Rigid tube is for the birds unless you are making money from it. No doubt beautiful builds.
But for a post standpoint. Yea. 2 more soft tubes and I should be good till I can't use a mouse anymore.
Whelp, discovered that for about or more than a year I ran the GPU connected to 2 output ports on the AMS radiators. Must've just run it backwards through those two rads IDK.
So a bunch of redoing and trying to make minimal changes as to not have to take out more rigid line. 😆
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Leak test overnight. Should I go half into green?
Broke a bit power 90 rotary. 😫
Correct. I thought I was in the Ryzen 5 gen thread 🤦♂️it is a 9800x3d.
Wow.what happens when you're stuck with mobile only and sober 😀.
@DAPUNISHER possible to move to correct thread? Lol I'm so sorry. I seen Ryzen 5 and was tired and no reading glasses on LMAO.
High pressure vapor chamberOk got a refused win11 pro install in. Doing drivers at the moment.
I need to know how this aqua computer vision block works. It showed 223C earlier lol.