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$100k to live in Wyoming and $131k for Arizona? That seems pretty dubious.


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So you're going to have 2 adults making $80k/year to live in Arizona, where the living wage is not actually $130k? The real living wage is closer to $80k (family of 4, 1 adult working, per the MIT calculator). And if you have 2 adults working, they don't need to both be making the living wage.
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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well it happened, only 22 Dem Senators voted against confirming the climate-change denying transporation secretary. Both Cali Dem senators voted yes lolol

Kick them all out. This nomination should have been delayed using Senate rules. Instead, most Dems voted FOR the nominee.

Maybe they're just trying to help drown the baby at this point. Just skip all the infighting, let the whole thing explode, then try to pick up the pieces.
 

MrSquished

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Maybe they're just trying to help drown the baby at this point. Just skip all the infighting, let the whole thing explode, then try to pick up the pieces.
When you have Dems saying things like work with Congress and bipartisanship, including folks like the Senate leader, they have no coordinated plan of any kind.
 
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dainthomas

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well it happened, only 22 Dem Senators voted against confirming the climate-change denying transporation secretary. Both Cali Dem senators voted yes lolol

Kick them all out. This nomination should have been delayed using Senate rules. Instead, most Dems voted FOR the nominee.


Given their responses to, well....everything I've become even less energized and motivated since right after the election. If they want to gift solid majorities in both houses to republicans in the midterms, they're off to a solid start.
 
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For all the complaints about "Dems doing stuff wrong", it seems that many don't feel the need to promote things that they're doing right when it comes to messaging.

You can't just be negative on everything ("not like that"). You also have to reward the things that are right.
 

MrSquished

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For all the complaints about "Dems doing stuff wrong", it seems that many don't feel the need to promote things that they're doing right when it comes to messaging.

You can't just be negative on everything ("not like that"). You also have to reward the things that are right.
Well there you go Chucky figured it out last night at 10:30, or a social media in turn went rogue. Good for him let's see some fire out of Finn at some pressers. Give me a little consistency and I'll change my position.
 

cytg111

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Well there you go Chucky figured it out last night at 10:30, or a social media in turn went rogue. Good for him let's see some fire out of Finn at some pressers. Give me a little consistency and I'll change my position.
Jesus fucking christ.

Take a look


One video over 2k views going back how many years?


This is the very fucking definition of screaming into the void.

It doesnt matter.
 
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Amol S.

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How many lighthouses do the conservatives have?

Twitter?
Fox?
Truth?
Facebook?
WP?
Nyp?
Rogan?
....

Progressive light houses
Msnbc?
BlueSky?

It seems like most publications has flipped over this season. Without media where the fuck is dems gonna publish their rage?

You need something new.
Where does Discord fall in that list?
 

MrSquished

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Jesus fucking christ.

Take a look


One video over 2k views going back how many years?


This is the very fucking definition of screaming into the void.

It doesnt matter.
Man if you think the Dems are messaging correctly than you are simply too far gone to reason with. What they are doing is a joke.
 
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MrSquished

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That there is a big right-wing mediasphere and incompetent mainstream media that tilts the playing field totally in the Trump party's favor and that Dems are mostly feckless and terrible at their jobs and messaging can be true at the same time. And they are both true. This is not a difficult concept to grasp.
 

evident

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Where does Discord fall in that list?

How many lighthouses do the conservatives have?

Twitter?
Fox?
Truth?
Facebook?
WP?
Nyp?
Rogan?
....

Progressive light houses
Msnbc?
BlueSky?

It seems like most publications has flipped over this season. Without media where the fuck is dems gonna publish their rage?

You need something new.
you can put the economist in there now too.... it went hard right the last couple of months inexplicably.
 
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cytg111

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Man if you think the Dems are messaging correctly than you are simply too far gone to reason with. What they are doing is a joke.
Tilt head left and let some of that brain chemistry flow to the reasoning center.
 

MrSquished

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Tilt head left and let some of that brain chemistry flow to the reasoning center.
If you can't see the major and fundamental issues with the Democratic party, you are missing out on a huge part of the US political environment.

This guy is mostly a chump. And he is letting Dem Senators vote yes to insane nominees, and not obstructing a single one. What a dbag.

 
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cytg111

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If you can't see the major and fundamental issues with the Democratic party, you are missing out on a huge part of the US political environment.

This guy is mostly a chump. And he is letting Dem Senators vote yes to insane nominees, and not obstructing a single one. What a dbag.

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I was emphasizing how useless Schumers youtube channel is... 2k views is nothing. Nothing. Might as well have no messaging at all.

Anyway this is your achilles heel, you take a wrong reasoning turn somewhere but instead of going back and re-assess you will now spin into a long winded essay on how your interpretation of my post is the only possible correct one cause your ego cant handle the alternative OR start spinning insults.

So whats it gonna be? Long winded essay or insults? .
 
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SteveGrabowski

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How many lighthouses do the conservatives have?

Twitter?
Fox?
Truth?
Facebook?
WP?
Nyp?
Rogan?
....

Progressive light houses
Msnbc?
BlueSky?

It seems like most publications has flipped over this season. Without media where the fuck is dems gonna publish their rage?

You need something new.
MSNBC is neoliberal crap, nothing progressive about those fuckheads
 

SteveGrabowski

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The last I heard, MSNBC is in jeopardy from Comcast wanting to dump it. I listen to Pod Save America which is pretty good. Two that I found on MSN are Alternet and Raw Story, but I do keep hitting a paywall on Raw Story. The Atlantic is good, and the NYT isn’t a total loss yet, although I never go there now because of the paywall. And I like the NYT Daily podcast. And The Conversation.
If you think NY Times has ever been respectable go read Manufacturing Consent by Herman and Chomsky
 

SteveGrabowski

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If you can't see the major and fundamental issues with the Democratic party, you are missing out on a huge part of the US political environment.

This guy is mostly a chump. And he is letting Dem Senators vote yes to insane nominees, and not obstructing a single one. What a dbag.

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Because when he goes right he gains two Trump voters in the suburbs for every working class voter he loses, duh
 
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