Democratic Party - Clueless & Feckless - is the D party done?

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SteveGrabowski

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For all the complaints about "Dems doing stuff wrong", it seems that many don't feel the need to promote things that they're doing right when it comes to messaging.

You can't just be negative on everything ("not like that"). You also have to reward the things that are right.
The Dems were scared to promote anything to the left of what Bill Clinton would do in election season because they think they're going to convert Trump voters. I have been furious the last year about how they never talked about the $2000 yearly cap to Medicare Part D out of pocket expenses that was part of the Inflation Reduction Act. I can't think of a single issue more important to the highest turnout demographic than are we going to be able to afford our meds. You say voters don't care about policy but the Dems didn't even fucking run on that policy that they should have been screaming from megaphones nonstop on both traditional and social media the entire year. They do one really awesome thing and they won't even take credit for it and think they're better off trotting Liz Cheney out there to show how trad Republican they can be.
 

ondma

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They are idiots. As dumb as the uninformed voter at this point. They are clueless uninformed politicians, who are literally our only hope to create a battle line right now, and they are failing miserably. Most Dems should be fired.
Is there anybody that you still like? Well, AOC maybe. Seems like you pretty much hate everybody else.
 
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RalphTheCow

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Should have thrown him under the bus a fucking year ago and had a real primary to give us a fighting chance to save the republic when it was clear he wasn't all there but most of the liberals here piled on when I said as much and told me to quit repeating right wing conspiracies.
But the 2020 Democratic primary was a real shit show. That seems to be a real problem that there is no clear consensus candidate.
 
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MrSquished

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I was emphasizing how useless Schumers youtube channel is... 2k views is nothing. Nothing. Might as well have no messaging at all.

Anyway this is your achilles heel, you take a wrong reasoning turn somewhere but instead of going back and re-assess you will now spin into a long winded essay on how your interpretation of my post is the only possible correct one cause your ego cant handle the alternative OR start spinning insults.

So whats it gonna be? Long winded essay or insults? .
Gotcha brother. I misread your post, my bad.

Yes he is pretty useless. I'm aroused that you appreciate that about him as well.
 

MrSquished

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Is there anybody that you still like? Well, AOC maybe. Seems like you pretty much hate everybody else.
Well dude, we have two political parties in this country. Not a lot of choices - so yeah, I hate them both, but for wildly different reasons. Not that crazy to not like two of two parties.

The Trump party is pure evil, the Dem party is outdated, out of touch, and feckless, but still good people overall. So like I said, very very very different reasons.

I do like some Dem pols, but absolutely none of the leadership at all.
 

MrSquished

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The new head of the department of transportation, which the Senate confirmed 77 to 22, has already issued a directive for the DOT to spend more money in areas where the marriage and birth rates are highest.

That's right folks. The majority of Democratic senators voted to approve this guy. Because the Senate and the Democrats have no fucking leadership and no fucking balls.
 
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Fenixgoon

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Jeffries is a tool. So his solution is to turn into basically - a statue of Aaron Judge.

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On the one hand, I get it. Political capital is finite. Even moreso as the minority party. On the other hand, letting the zone flood with bullshit means you might never get out from under it. And I think that's a bigger threat right now
 

MrSquished

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On the one hand, I get it. Political capital is finite. Even moreso as the minority party. On the other hand, letting the zone flood with bullshit means you might never get out from under it. And I think that's a bigger threat right now
They haven't really swung at a pitch yet. Virtually statues.
 
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Indus

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They haven't really swung at a pitch yet. Virtually statues.

Whether we and you like it or not.. I think you have to accept that Trump won 2 terms because of either 1 of 2 things:

1. The Dem party chose to run 2 women and the country doesn't trust women in power.

2. The Dem party chose to cosy up to corporate interests and billionaires and say fuck off to those Americans wanting jobs with a living wage in favor of cheap migrant labor.

You can blame Biden all you want but it won't get you anywhere.. you have to understand this miscalculation is DELIBERATE because its what their corporate donors tell them to do!

Sure you'll get AOC to pout and protest at what you want, but can you get Schumer or Pelosi or Jeffries to do the same? They're the cancer that infects the Dem party and they have to go. Until that day when we get a Trump like figure which destroys the dems from the inside.. the party is dead!
 
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2. The Dem party chose to cosy up to corporate interests and billionaires and say fuck off to those Americans wanting jobs with a living wage in favor of cheap migrant labor.
Umm.... Plenty of people online got real upset when their private burrito taxis got expensive. Americans actually really like their cheap labor.
 

MrSquished

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Whether we and you like it or not.. I think you have to accept that Trump won 2 terms because of either 1 of 2 things:

1. The Dem party chose to run 2 women and the country doesn't trust women in power.

2. The Dem party chose to cosy up to corporate interests and billionaires and say fuck off to those Americans wanting jobs with a living wage in favor of cheap migrant labor.

You can blame Biden all you want but it won't get you anywhere.. you have to understand this miscalculation is DELIBERATE because its what their corporate donors tell them to do!

Sure you'll get AOC to pout and protest at what you want, but can you get Schumer or Pelosi or Jeffries to do the same? They're the cancer that infects the Dem party and they have to go. Until that day when we get a Trump like figure which destroys the dems from the inside.. the party is dead!
you sound like a blend of MAGA and insanely radical far leftists.
 
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