Elon Musk now owns 9.2% of twitter...update.. will soon be the sole owner as Board of Directors accepts his purchase offer

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Heartbreaker

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Not that Leon hasn’t lied to investors for years already, but their forward guidance is total bonkers.

Maybe all government vehicles will be required to be Teslas, or the will be a new EV credit written in such a way that only Tesla qualifies.

The corruption has no limits now.

With the government in his pocket, Musk has many levers to tilt the playfield in his direction.
 
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Not that Leon hasn’t lied to investors for years already, but their forward guidance is total bonkers.




Good thing for Musk that investors believe Tesla is an AI/robotics play instead of an automaker. 🤣
It is funny seeing them blame tariffs as a part of their profit projections.

And yet premarket has them flat.
 
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VRAMdemon

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The buyout offer for federal employees was apparently sent out by Elon Musk without Trump’s knowledge.


I true, in any other executive organization anywhere in any field of work someone doing that would mean he’d be shitcanned at once. But hey, here we are.
 

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Not that Leon hasn’t lied to investors for years already, but their forward guidance is total bonkers.




Good thing for Musk that investors believe Tesla is an AI/robotics play instead of an automaker. 🤣
How is 50% mass storage growth going to happen when the Trump administration is trying to kill solar and wind power?
 
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Brovane

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The buyout offer for federal employees was apparently sent out by Elon Musk without Trump’s knowledge.


I true, in any other executive organization anywhere in any field of work someone doing that would mean he’d be shitcanned at once. But hey, here we are.

Or more troublesome Trump gave him the power to do that without checking with his people first.

How is 50% mass storage growth going to happen when the Trump administration is trying to kill solar and wind power?

#1- There is still a lot of online renewable power especially solar that over generates during certain parts of the day in the US so there is still room for growth even if solar and wind power growth slows down when subsidies are removed.
#2- It is a global market for storage and their is a lot of room for growth outside of the US market.
 

K1052

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#1- There is still a lot of online renewable power especially solar that over generates during certain parts of the day in the US so there is still room for growth even if solar and wind power growth slows down when subsidies are removed.
#2- It is a global market for storage and their is a lot of room for growth outside of the US market.

This is true however if you are a primarily a car company and you're talking mostly about storage and robots that don't actually exist in your forward guidance that seems like a bit of a problem.
 

fskimospy

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The buyout offer for federal employees was apparently sent out by Elon Musk without Trump’s knowledge.


I true, in any other executive organization anywhere in any field of work someone doing that would mean he’d be shitcanned at once. But hey, here we are.
It's annoying to me that this is still referred to as a 'buyout'. It isn't!

A buyout is supposed to be where your employer gives you money in exchange for retiring or resigning. The 'buyout' in question here is an offer to let them continue to work their full time job, just to continue to do so remotely. This also carries no guarantee you won't just be terminated anyway. It's a scam.
 
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How is 50% mass storage growth going to happen when the Trump administration is trying to kill solar and wind power?
Killing or deporting a quarter of the population, and cutting the economy in half will probably get us to the same ratio, maybe that's what is meant.
 

Brovane

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This is true however if you are a primarily a car company and you're talking mostly about storage and robots that don't actually exist in your forward guidance that seems like a bit of a problem.

The auto market is worth a lot more money than the grid scale storage market. It isn't bad that Tesla is doing grid scale storage considering the synergy between that and EV batteries. However they need to be growing revenue on the vehicle side and introducing new models instead of building mobile stainless steel trash cans and robots. However, elmo has other ideas.
 
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Brovane

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The kind of things that Musk wants to do inside the government are going to make no shortage of desperate and very angry people if he manages them in a country loaded to the gills with firearms. I am absolutely certain this fact has not occurred to him.

Elmo now has up to 20 bodyguards who travel with him. I doubt you will ever see Musk walking on a New York sidewalk without a phalanx of body guards covering every angle.

https://futurism.com/the-byte/elon-musk-armed-bodyguards-security
 

Heartbreaker

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The kind of things that Musk wants to do inside the government are going to make no shortage of desperate and very angry people if he manages them in a country loaded to the gills with firearms. I am absolutely certain this fact has not occurred to him.

Or maybe they are planning to use any reaction as an excuse for martial law -- total dictatorship.
 

hal2kilo

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K1052

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Or maybe they are planning to use any reaction as an excuse for martial law -- total dictatorship.

No they are just mostly morons who don't understand or care about anything. At least on Musk's end.

Imposing martial law because you don't want to pay Social Security is more likely to lead to the dissolution of the nation than a successful authoritarian state.
 
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Brovane

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That's certainly not a guarantee and if somebody who actually knows how to use a rifle show up doesn't mean much.

No it isn't a guarantee. There are no guarantees with a properly motivated and trained assassin. However it isn't like elmo is going to walk by himself on a sidewalk in a major US city so it is easy for anyone to walk up and shoot him with a handgun. The security detail makes it more difficult for someone to get at him.

I'd love to think that monitarily that's bleeding him dry. But, life is not that tough when you have so much money you couldn't possibly spend it all before you die.

Tesla pays for his security and it is like $2.5M a year.
 
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Heartbreaker

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No they are just mostly morons who don't understand or care about anything. At least on Musk's end.

Imposing martial law because you don't want to pay Social Security is more likely to lead to the dissolution of the nation than a successful authoritarian state.

Travelling with 20 bodyguards is a sign he knows, they are provoking a potential response.
 

hal2kilo

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No it isn't a guarantee. There are no guarantees with a properly motivated and trained assassin. However it isn't like elmo is going to walk by himself on a sidewalk in a major US city so it is easy for anyone to walk up and shoot him with a handgun. The security detail makes it more difficult for someone to get at him.



Tesla pays for his security and it is like $2.5M a year.
Oh yea, when you own a business, you don't actually have any responsibilities when it's a corporation, except when it really counts, business write offs.
 

K1052

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No it isn't a guarantee. There are no guarantees with a properly motivated and trained assassin. However it isn't like elmo is going to walk by himself on a sidewalk in a major US city so it is easy for anyone to walk up and shoot him with a handgun. The security detail makes it more difficult for someone to get at him.

You also have to take in to account the possibly that the person does not intend to get away. So like they could just rock up on his entourage with an AR-15 pistol that has a c-mag plugged in and that would do it.
 

Brovane

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Oh yea, when you own a business, you don't actually have any responsibilities when it's a corporation, except when it really counts, business write offs.

Just imagine the write offs for him flying all over on his Gulfstream.

You also have to take in to account the possibly that the person does not intend to get away. So like they could just rock up on his entourage with an AR-15 pistol that has a c-mag plugged in and that would do it.
True but that person would have to know in advance as to where he would be and then plan accordingly. I would imaging for pre-planned events that are public knowledge, getting close would be difficult but not impossible.
 
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Oh yea, when you own a business, you don't actually have any responsibilities when it's a corporation, except when it really counts, business write offs.
Did you see Reed O'Connor's ruling in the American Airlines ERISA case? He basically said that if a company or fund is not doing everything it can to maximize investor returns, it's basically violating fiduciary duty. All hail the mighty dollar.
 
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