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dasherHampton

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Daytrading is hard work. I did it for years.

Sit in front of your monitor all day until your eyes bleed.

Have dinner.

Sit up until midnight doing research and making a list of stocks likely to move positively the next day.

Wash, rinse, repeat.

It's a perishable skill. Took me like a year to get comfortable, lean how the market moves.. You have to develop a pretty steely discipline - flush turds immediately. Try to win 75% of your trades but accept the fact you will lose money some days. KEEP THE LOSSES SMALL.

I will say something that most would probably disagree with: It's the easiest way to make a small, steady income in the market as long as you keep your expectations in check.

If you do day trade you'll get flagged a s a pattern DT and will need to up your balance to $25,000.
 

Artorias

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Why are people loosing their shit on Microsoft today. Jesus.

It's a money making machine. Buy today and a year from now barring an overall market collapse you will be in the green.
 
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dasherHampton

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Why are people loosing their shit on Microsoft today. Jesus.

It's a money making machine. Buy today and a year from now barring an overall market collapse you will be in the green.

I agree with this.

I'm considering moving a modest amount (maybe $5000) into MSFT.
 

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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Why are people loosing their shit on Microsoft today. Jesus.

It's a money making machine. Buy today and a year from now barring an overall market collapse you will be in the green.

Can't you say same about Amazon and Google?

Have my doubts about Tesla & Apple though.
 

Charmonium

Lifer
May 15, 2015
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GOLD! Our prices are INSANE!!!

I really though that 2700 was the ceiling and it was for a bit. This morning I look at the quotes screen and . . . 2800.

It does make me feel better about trading in my XRP for XLM, lo those many years ago.

You lose some, you win some and then you die.
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
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GOLD! Our prices are INSANE!!!

I really though that 2700 was the ceiling and it was for a bit. This morning I look at the quotes screen and . . . 2800.

It does make me feel better about trading in my XRP for XLM, lo those many years ago.

You lose some, you win some and then you die.
I want gold but not at these prices. 😫
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
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Windows has done everything that I've ever needed an operating system to do. Must be PEBKAC for you.
I love Windows....7 and 10.❤️

Win 11 can go jump in the lake. 🤬

I'm still using Win 10 and will be forced to upgrade my 2700k processor from 2012 this October.

And I am perfectly happy with my Sandybrige CPU.
 
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Indus

Lifer
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I love Windows....7 and 10.❤️

Win 11 can go jump in the lake. 🤬

I'm still using Win 10 and will be forced to upgrade my 2700k processor from 2012 this October.

And I am perfectly happy with my Sandybrige CPU.

Why don't you just get a new $30 500gb hard drive.. and put on LMDE on that, set up a dual boot and just try linux.

If you can use windows 7, you can use LMDE! And I'm on a i5 3470 and the igpu.. works just fine.

Your browser still works if it's chrome or firefox.. it'll sync, which means your trade pages will still work. You don't have to learn anything all over again or get used to anything.. Hell man you taught me how to do trading and I did it on LMDE. Best part of LMDE is one stable update every two years!





BTW here I was thinking NVDA is making a comeback today and I was hoping to smile later today.. and after I get back home and check the market.. another buying opportunity.

*sigh* At least I put in more and lowered my average cost from 147 to 130 earlier this week. Still $450 in the red. Broadcom too but I'm treating that as a long
 

Charmonium

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If you can use windows 7, you can use LMDE!
The nail which rises up will be hammered down. IOW, I don't give a crap if Win sucks monkey ass. Since I never know what I might want to install and use, I'll use the same necrotic OS as everyone else.
*sigh* At least I put in more and lowered my average cost from 147 to 130 earlier this week. Still $450 in the red. Broadcom too but I'm treating that as a long
FOMO is a bitch
 
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dullard

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and after I get back home and check the market.. another buying opportunity.
I'm actually pretty surprised that the market didn't tank more than it did given the claim of tariffs starting tomorrow.
 
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Indus

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FOMO is a bitch

I did make an informed decision and it was my first day in the stock market.. checked a lot of recommendations.. strong buys.. and only $2100 per stock (total of 6).

That won't ruin me as I'm just getting feet wet but 20% down in NVDA and AVGO after 1 day due to deepseek was not what I expected.

Sure I could just wait it out but NVDA was always gonna be my long so I doubled down on it.. left the rest. Well it's hard to avoid NVDA anyways when it's 7% of every index fund. But I really didn't wanna hand my money to Tesla which is why I picked 6 stocks I liked.
 

Charmonium

Lifer
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I did make an informed decision and it was my first day in the stock market.. checked a lot of recommendations.. strong buys.. and only $2100 per stock (total of 6).

That won't ruin me as I'm just getting feet wet but 20% down in NVDA and AVGO after 1 day due to deepseek was not what I expected.

Sure I could just wait it out but NVDA was always gonna be my long so I doubled down on it.. left the rest. Well it's hard to avoid NVDA anyways when it's 7% of every index fund. But I really didn't wanna hand my money to Tesla which is why I picked 6 stocks I liked.
Hey, you don't have to defend yourself to me, or anyone really. But you really can't trust analysts. Even if they're not talking their own book (stocks they own), they don't want to look stupid. The best way to guarantee that is to put on your sheepskin onesie and go BAAA.
 
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Indus

Lifer
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Hey, you don't have to defend yourself to me, or anyone really. But you really can't trust analysts. Even if they're not talking their own book (stocks they own), they don't want to look stupid. The best way to guarantee that is to put on your sheepskin onesie and go BAAA.

Gonna go long. I don't know if anything will 100x like before (kinda doubt it).. but hopefully in a year or two, all green.

Will do most of my investing in index funds. Hope Tesla crashes before I put money in that.


BTW I thought I'm going in the stock market and hopefully I'm riding a bike with these 6 companies.. but it was more like I'm surfing in an ocean on top of a shark that can eat me!
 

Charmonium

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BTW I thought I'm going in the stock market and hopefully I'm riding a bike with these 6 companies.. but it was more like I'm surfing in an ocean on top of a shark that can eat me!
Hahaha and yup. Now it's time to go deep on options and pork bellies. Sell Mortimer, selllll. Oblique hat tip to Trading Places.

The stock market is like prison. The odds are decent that you're going to get bent over, just hopefully, not repeatedly.

Seriously though, you seem like the curious type which means that sooner or later you're going to poke around. If you decide to roll the dice on any options, definitely do a a little research on The Greeks - the parameters used for option pricing.

The first pricing model was Black-Scholes but I'm sure things have gotten a bit more sophisticated.
 

Indus

Lifer
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Hahaha and yup. Now it's time to go deep on options and pork bellies. Sell Mortimer, selllll. Oblique hat tip to Trading Places.

The stock market is like prison. The odds are decent that you're going to get bent over, just hopefully, not repeatedly.

Seriously though, you seem like the curious type which means that sooner or later you're going to poke around. If you decide to roll the dice on any options, definitely do a a little research on The Greeks - the parameters used for option pricing.

The first pricing model was Black-Scholes but I'm sure things have gotten a bit more sophisticated.

Hahah

In 2008.. all my friends got into stocks.. I was like I don't understand them so no.
When in 2013-14.. all my friends got into bitcoin.. I was like no.
When in 2018.. etherium.. I was like no.
2022 is the first time I heard index funds here.. I was like no.

So while I'm a yes now on index funds.. a calculated yes on some stocks, I'm a no on options and a FUCK NO on Tesla!



I tend to really question things.. like is Elon running a pyramid scheme??

But I have to be honest.. I feel pretty stupid for not investing in NVIDIA back in the day.. I've used their video cards since Ge Force 3 Ti 200 days.
 

Charmonium

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@Indus - yeah, the bitcoin thing still stings but there's an old saying that originally was in the context of short sales - the market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent.

Also "he that sells what isn't his-un, buys it back or goes to prison.

edit - traders might be bare knuckle financial delinquents but some of the aphorisms are just timeless.
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
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Why don't you just get a new $30 500gb hard drive.. and put on LMDE on that, set up a dual boot and just try linux.

If you can use windows 7, you can use LMDE! And I'm on a i5 3470 and the igpu.. works just fine.

Your browser still works if it's chrome or firefox.. it'll sync, which means your trade pages will still work. You don't have to learn anything all over again or get used to anything.. Hell man you taught me how to do trading and I did it on LMDE. Best part of LMDE is one stable update every two years!





BTW here I was thinking NVDA is making a comeback today and I was hoping to smile later today.. and after I get back home and check the market.. another buying opportunity.

*sigh* At least I put in more and lowered my average cost from 147 to 130 earlier this week. Still $450 in the red. Broadcom too but I'm treating that as a long
Unfortunately all my applications are Windows based so Linux is no-go. I tried Linux a long time ago and felt non-plussed over the learning curve and lack of hardware support. That was back around 2009.
 

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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Unfortunately all my applications are Windows based so Linux is no-go. I tried Linux a long time ago and felt non-plussed over the learning curve and lack of hardware support. That was back around 2009.

So that was pre-linux mint which is designed like windows 7.. which was perfect for a majority of people but windows tried to get us on 8, 8.1, 11 bah.

The easiest way to migrate over is use google docs for your spreadsheets and stuff if it's web based and a lot of stuff is nowdays.

But linux has come a long way.. did you know you can play steam games in not just windows but linux mint too? You just download the steam app. Discord and talk with friends? Same thing. VLC to watch your movies? same thing.



Try it sometime.. you might actually surprise yourself with the ability to say fuck off microsoft!

P.S. I still maintain a dual boot just incase but I haven't needed it.
 
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Indus

Lifer
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BTW a lot of people just download it and use Virtual Box to see if they like it before doing it for real or even investing in a hard drive..

This is how:

 

biostud

Lifer
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BTW a lot of people just download it and use Virtual Box to see if they like it before doing it for real or even investing in a hard drive..

This is how:

Yeah, I have mint running on a free VMware machine. It's a nice hazzle free way of trying Linux.
 
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FelixDeCat

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Rigetti had a nice rally on revelation Blackrock took a big position before the massive run up. Recently, convicted "pharma bro" Martin Shkreli called it a good short. Current price is $13 (fib level):




Yes, it is wildly overvalued based on revs / earnings:



The current market cap is $3.6 billion! So this clearly trades on sentiment and potential and not much else IMO.

However, could Rigetti reach a high of $30 this year based on short covering, irrational exuberance and hype?



Or will it be stuck in a range from $8 to $18 fib levels for 2025?
 
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