Discussion Nvidia Blackwell in Q1-2025

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Maybe NV should hire Tim cook??? I never seen Apple with a paper launch for any of their products. This company sucks at inventory handling, and its worth $3T lolol
It simply shows how unconcerned they are about the consumer market. Kinda like AMD. When big money is elsewhere, peasants like us get ignored
 
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Just to be clear, I'm throughly unimpressed by how NVidia chose to spec this generation, but I think a lot of hardware enthusiasts still don't realize that we're increasingly seeing CPU's struggle with these really beefy GPU's.
I'm pretty sure Nvidia will "solve" this driver overhead issue with their more lucrative and profitable "ARM" desktop platform where they can sell their Mediatek licensed ARM CPU to existing suckers by promising them that this is the platform that unleashes the actual performance of their 5090.
 

coercitiv

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You know I can never unread that?
There there, let me ease your pain with some good news from the EU:

Bots buy Geforce RTX 5090/5080 FE: Proshop sees Nvidia as responsible

They essentially grabbed all FE stock for multiple EU countries. Just send in the clowns already.
The Geforce RTX 5090 FE and Geforce RTX 5080 FE were expected to be completely sold out before the official market launch on January 30th at 3 p.m. This is indicated by invoices that the PCGH editorial team has received and that were issued 30 minutes before the start of sales. According to this, the two Blackwell graphics cards were already being picked up by bots via API from around 2:20 p.m. via links published in advance and were then completely sold out by 2:30 p.m.
several members of a German Discord server have contacted the PCGH editorial team and, in addition to numerous invoices, order and shipping confirmations, also provided the bot that used the API to buy up all stocks of the Founders Edition of the Geforce RTX 5090 and 5080, which are now sold out and are only available in the Proshop, before they were released for sale on January 30 at 3 p.m. CET.
Proshop, in the person of Eric Letkow, Country Manager of the Danish online retailer, has now officially responded to a query from the PCGH editorial team and referred the matter to Nvidia. The company based in Højbjerg near Aarhus obviously sees the US manufacturer as responsible.
 

CP5670

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Just got lucky and got an order in for an AIB on Best Buy here. These cards are robbery. The markup over MSRP is ridiculous. The card I got was $600 more than MSRP.
This is actually pretty good. They are being sold for $4000+ on third party sites.

I might get one if it was easier to get and had some good resale offers on my 4090 but don't want to do all this work to get one, would rather game in my free time instead.
 

Heartbreaker

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There there, let me ease your pain with some good news from the EU:

Bots buy Geforce RTX 5090/5080 FE: Proshop sees Nvidia as responsible

They essentially grabbed all FE stock for multiple EU countries. Just send in the clowns already.

Good news being sarcasm?

As far as I can tell from reading the translation. A retailer had an open interface that a bot exploited for early sales (inside job??), and they a blaming NVidia.

I guess they can blame NVidia for low stock, but their interface being open early for a bot sounds like an problem with their web sales software: Insecure software and/or disreputable insiders.
 

WelshBloke

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Hell maybe NV is like "You people don't like our cards?! FINE! Then you don't get any and we'll see how you like THAT!"

After a year of no NV GPUs on store shelves people will greedily lap up whatever slop NV shovels in front of them.

Seems perfectly rational, it's what I'd do if I was a $3T dollar company...
I mean you don't have to upgrade every year!
 
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WelshBloke

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I will want to upgrade in 2027 and I bet the stock and pricing of whatever is new won't be any better.

Hopefully game devs don't get any worse.
But the uplift between what you have now and what you get in 2027 will be greater than if you upgrade every year.
Plus buying on release day is never going to be a great experience! Wait a couple of months at least for drivers to sort themselves out, unbiased reviews and any faults with the card to come to light.
 

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Gaming GPUs now have to compete with $20K-$50K+ enterprise GPUs. Jensen actually threw a bone to the enthusiasts with the 5090. Nobody should pay more than MSRP for this crap though. People never learn. Scalper's bots bought up all 1000 available worldwide and are re-selling for 2x, and some cucks are actually paying that ransom. It will never cease to happen.
 

GodisanAtheist

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I mean you don't have to upgrade every year!

-Indeed.

I always buy a card to play games that have already released (i.e. my 6800XT was purchased to play games from 2016-2022), I always buy used, and I generally try to 2x-3x my performance for $300-$400.

The 6800Xt is roughly a 3X perf upgrade over my old 980Ti and i managed to snag it for $415 back in 2022 before the 4090 dropped.

Unfortunately, I suspect Blackwell's damp squib launch is going to jack up used card prices pretty bad for the next 6 months if not longer.

I'm actually most interested in a potentially price dropped 5060Ti or 5060 at this point. $329 and $250 respectively? Should push prices down on existing 60ti used card stock...
 

RnR_au

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-Indeed.

I always buy a card to play games that have already released (i.e. my 6800XT was purchased to play games from 2016-2022), I always buy used, and I generally try to 2x-3x my performance for $300-$400.

The 6800Xt is roughly a 3X perf upgrade over my old 980Ti and i managed to snag it for $415 back in 2022 before the 4090 dropped.
I think you'll be waiting for a while before you get 2x-3x your 6800XT... unless RT suddenly becomes a must-have.
 
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