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manly

Lifer
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Were there even any roughing the passer penalties in the AFCCG? I don't remember seeing any. Though anecdotal, I can appreciate some stats-based evidence like that. That's unfortunate if true. I think we've become the new Patriots and I now know why I hated them so much.
That article was written after the divisional round. The thing is usually playoff stats are fairly small sample sizes, except for the outliers. Tom Brady and now Patrick Mahomes both have a huge body of work that proves they are all-time greats. Most other SB winning QBs don't have nearly the same body of work to draw firm conclusions (much less the QBs that fall short).

Calls will always get missed; one can only hope that they don't decide outcomes. As for the AFCCG, the one that stings as game-changing was the turnover on downs when Josh Allen appeared to have converted a tush push in the 4Q. But we're talking inches here, so it was nearly impossible to overturn on replay. So... If tennis has the technology to make ALL line calls automatically, then they could put location trackers inside the footballs so that forward progress is no longer a judgment call.
 

Chaotic42

Lifer
Jun 15, 2001
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As a Saints fan, I'm a bad call connoisseur. That Rams defender just obliterated a Saints WR and didn't get a call. IIRC the Saints got a penalty for bleeding on the field because of the hit...

People here in Nellyville really seem to either love or hate the Chiefs, and the haters are having a field day. I wonder what it would take to pay some poor interns to go watch every game in the last 20 years and gather some statistics.
 

JujuFish

Lifer
Feb 3, 2005
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PS you guys are so ridiculous with the refball nonsense
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it sure ain't a donkey.

I've never seen anyone get a late hit penalty while having *both feet in bounds* other than Mahomes.
 

thestrangebrew1

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As a 9er fan, I hope KC just blows the pants off the Iggles. Also as a 9er fan, I hope both teams lose (is a tie possible? I can't remember SB OT rules, even from last year). As a football in general, I understand how difficult a 3-peat is and can appreciate what the Chiefs have done. And I like Andy Reid, so I guess I'll be rooting for the Chiefs. But there's no way they'll blow out Philly. They just don't dominate the way the used to in Mahomes' early career. They're going to have a tough time stopping Barkley. He'll end up being SBMVP I think.
 

manly

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Eagles fan back in the news. Guess police forgot to grease the utility poles last weekend. 💀

 

KLin

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purbeast0

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Sep 13, 2001
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Wow that was a high fall. As much of scumbags are Eagles fans can be, that dude didn't deserve to die for just trying to have fun. Hopefully this is a lesson to future fans though (probably won't be).
 
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So I've seen a lot of anger about the Chiefs, people saying they cheated, the NFL wants them to win, etc, but I've never heard anyone say *why*. Why the Chiefs? KC isn't that big of a market. Is it that Mahomes and Kelce are popular now? Do the powers that be love State Farm?

I have no idea if anything bad is actually going on, but this just reads more like people are tired of them being good than an actual conspiracy. I feel like a Bills win would have been a lot better for the NFL.

I have a co-worker that thinks its being done for sports betting. He thinks the games are fixed, but he still bets on them, so he's not exactly bright.

Were there even any roughing the passer penalties in the AFCCG? I don't remember seeing any. Though anecdotal, I can appreciate some stats-based evidence like that. That's unfortunate if true. I think we've become the new Patriots and I now know why I hated them so much.

I think there was a personal foul one that got tacked on at the one of one of Mahomes' rushing TDs. I feel like they called it a roughing the passer penalty initially but it was just a personal foul for something.

Not saying it's rigged, but Mahomes has been treated well by the zebras in the playoffs. (Small sample sizes and all.)



SI - One Stunning Stat About Patrick Mahomes’s Penalty Advantage in Playoffs Says It All

Except it ignores shit like the other teams play. The Ravens had like 5 that should have been called in the AFC Champ game last year, but they only called like 2 of them. One of them the guy pretty much full on fucking uppercutted Mahomes while he was throwing even and it was clearly deliberate. Pretty sure they called that one, but didn't call one on I think the previous play which was almost as bad.

Plus, I mean when teams do dumb shit like the Cinci player in the AFC Champ game the year before, blatantly shoving him when he's already out of bounds, then you deserve to be flagged.

The bitching about the Texans games was dumb. For starters, they bitched about one that wasn't even called, which is all you need to know how full of fucking shit people are about it. The other two were legit. The Texans guy hit Mahome's facemask with his helmet, that's a fucking penalty every single time and I have no clue why anyone is acting like it wasn't, but even the one officiating analyst guy tried acting like it wasn't (and then all of that arguments are based on the rear view; the side view shows clear helmet to facemask hit). The other one, both Texans players lowered their helmets trying to hit Mahomes in the helmet, and instead hit mostly each other's helmets, one of them still hit Mahome's helmet as well. Straight up dirty fucking play. Frankly the Texan players are lucky they didn't get ejected for targeting as that's what they were actually doing. There's simply no legitimate argument against that being a penalty, they clearly were aiming for his head after he was already sliding.


I disagree with that guy's assessment of the last one as the shove actually occurred while Mahomes was still in bounds, which is why it wasn't called. It was closer than I thought it was though and I could see it easily being called, which is why teams generally chastise their own players for even doing the fucking shove because it has a high likelihood of leading to a penalty. Plus, Jamal Charles blew out his knee on a similar play (got shoved going out of bounds and he slipped on something on the sideline), which is why the league doesn't want shit like that happening.

Hell in the Super Bowl game against the Eagles, Jason Kelce threw his forearm right into the helmet of a DB that was already on the ground. He clearly wasn't even going for anything other than to do what he did. If it had been a d-lineman doing it to a WR they very probably would have been ejected for targeting. Didn't even get a flag, despite it being a late hit, him leading with shoulder/arm deliberately into the guy's helmet/head, and the ball and both the DB and the WR were already on the ground (so its not like Kelce could claim he was blocking or anything, it was just a dirty fucking hit). But yep, the refs just save the Chiefs.


I feel bad for teams that get legit screwed (the one game this year where the refs didn't call the blatant hit to the QB's helmet in the end zone, which I think resulted in a safety or defensive TD and ended the game was absolutely bullshit, and the Rams PI against the Saints a few years ago was also ridiculous level of BS).

I'm not even claiming the Chiefs don't either get away with shit, but when the complaints are absolutely legit penalties that should have been called (see the fucking jackasses griping about the holding at the end of the Chiefs-Eagles Super Bowl a couple of years back, where even the DB was like "yeah it was a hold" but asswipes try to argue it wasn't) its fucking stupid. Further, people ignore plenty of blatant penalties by other teams like just the Chiefs get away with it.
 
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purbeast0

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Heard that earlier and was like well that explains his yips this year.

But then saw it was from 2012-2016 so I dunno.

Maybe he knew that it was going to leak or something though.
 

thestrangebrew1

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I decided to google who had the worst fanbase and was surprised by this survey/list:


The list is shite because who knows what metrics they used, but Philly at #4 of worst to best? And the Commanders at #32? I haven't heard/seen one incident that I can remember about Commanders fans being dicks. Heck, as a 9er fan, you would typically hear at least 1 incident a year of one of ours fighting a visitor fan.
 
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purbeast0

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I decided to google who had the worst fanbase and was surprised by this survey/list:


The list is shite because who knows what metrics they used, but Philly at #4 of worst to best? And the Commanders at #32? I haven't heard/seen one incident that I can remember about Commanders fans being dicks. Heck, as a 9er fan, you would typically hear at least 1 incident a year of one of ours fighting a visitor fan.
LMAO yeah wtf. That list makes absolutely no sense at all.
 

akugami

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Feb 14, 2005
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99.99% of the Eagles fanbase are law abiding good natured citizens.

My point was that it's unfair to all of us who don't do jack, to be labeled as obnoxious. And there are multiple incidences of Washington fans acting belligerent in the last year alone with fights and acting like complete dipshits. Some of them pretty egregious.

For me, sports is an escape from reality for a few hours. It's not something I want to spend time doing any serious arguments over.

That's about all I want to say on that subject.
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
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99.99% of the Eagles fanbase are law abiding good natured citizens.

My point was that it's unfair to all of us who don't do jack, to be labeled as obnoxious. And there are multiple incidences of Washington fans acting belligerent in the last year alone with fights and acting like complete dipshits. Some of them pretty egregious.

For me, sports is an escape from reality for a few hours. It's not something I want to spend time doing any serious arguments over.

That's about all I want to say on that subject.
The fact that you can't see one offs vs. a pattern is definitely your homerism.

And as a homer myself, that is okay in my eyes. That's what homers are supposed to do, although you could at least acknowledge it lol.
 
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