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I think it's to drive future demand. Could be they set aside more GPU cores for professional cards as well. Maybe some combination of both.What is the reason for this storage of 5000 series GPUs? I keep hearing its not because of fab capacity contention with AI so what is it then?
1. Fake to drive demand?
2. They had to re-spin the whole range really late?
3. ????
What happened?
Bedbug level stomach full to the point of bursting, laziness, more like.But I'm not sure, it could be simple incompetence.
Don't know if it's credible:Was the 4090 ever available in sufficient quantities to keep cards in stock at MSRP? Or did that just never happen?
My local Micro Center has 4090s and even some open box from time to time for at least a year. The price tracker seems to show the same above. I bought mine in December of 2022 and there was low stock, but they always seemed to have some 4090s in stock as I recall; I ordered mine Online for pickup then anyway.Was the 4090 ever available in sufficient quantities to keep cards in stock at MSRP? Or did that just never happen?
What is the reason for this storage of 5000 series GPUs? I keep hearing its not because of fab capacity contention with AI so what is it then?
1. Fake to drive demand?
2. They had to re-spin the whole range really late?
3. ????
What happened?
Its $30-40k each according to speculation in 2024.AI companies will pay $10,000 or more for a big Blackwell die.
Or more, like a lot more.AI companies will pay $10,000 or more for a big Blackwell die.
Data center Blackwell is limited by HBM and packaging.
Me. My extrapolation from TSMC wafer starts per month. There's nowhere near enough HBM capacity to match that.Says who?
Me. My extrapolation from TSMC wafer starts per month. There's nowhere near enough HBM capacity to match that.
Sure...
**Future actions: Avoid, Return, and Recall**
It is my opinion that any card drawing more than the base 375W per 12VHPWR connector should be avoided. Every single-cable 4090 and 5090 is in that mix, and the 5080 is borderline at 360W.
I would like to see any cards without the minimum protections named above recalled as dangerous and potentially faulty. This will not happen without extensive legal action taken against Nvidia and board partners. They see no problem with this until people make it their problem.
If you even suspect your card may be at risk, return it and get your money back. Spend it on something else. You can do a lot with 2 grand and a bit extra. They do not deserve your money if they are going to sell you a potentially dangerous product lacking arguably critical safety mechanisms. Yes that includes AMD and Intel. That goes for any company to be honest.
You give the full die to me and other gamers for $799.00 and not a cent over because I've been putting food on that guy's table ever since I wanted more FPS in Serious Sam: The first encounter.If you were NVidia and you could allocate dies to customers who will pay $10,000 or to customers who will pay $2,000, who do you give more dies to?
What I have read they are not on the same process, so not a process contention issue.AI companies will pay $10,000 or more for a big Blackwell die.
Gamers can buy (theoretically) that same die for $2,000.
If you were NVidia and you could allocate dies to customers who will pay $10,000 or to customers who will pay $2,000, who do you give more dies to?
Hint: You used all of the money you made making the same decision when crypto companies wanted more cards a few years ago to buy a bigger closet and can now store 200% more leather jackets than previously.
Need to increase production 50% this year.
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And Samsung stumbled so it isn't happening.
How does a chart about demand relate to actual production? I guess I don't understand korean so perhaps I am missing context?Need to increase production 50% this year.
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And Samsung stumbled so it isn't happening.
It doesn't relate. But HBM production needs to increase 50% in a single year. It won't. No point to shift more allocation to DC GPU if you can't get enough memory for them. TSMC allegedly has a 100% utilization rate for 5nm lines but more memory per GPU means there is still little point to shift allocation away from GB202/203 for a long period of time. They can sell at still good margins with common VRAM. It might be a problem as Blackwell ramps but over the course of the year the allocation should be fine.How does a chart about demand relate to actual production? I guess I don't understand korean so perhaps I am missing context?
Some 5090 Geekbench GPU numbersI have done initial 3dmark suite, with no "tricks/tweaks", just install driver + OC computer + fans on 100% and run
I scored 40 413 in Port Royal
AMD Ryzen 9 9950X, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 x 1, 32768 MB, 64-bit Windows 11}www.3dmark.comI scored 16 120 in Speed Way
AMD Ryzen 9 9950X, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 x 1, 32768 MB, 64-bit Windows 11}www.3dmark.comI scored 15 932 in Steel Nomad
AMD Ryzen 9 9950X, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 x 1, 32768 MB, 64-bit Windows 11}www.3dmark.comI scored 15 836 in Steel Nomad
AMD Ryzen 9 9950X, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 x 1, 32768 MB, 64-bit Windows 11}www.3dmark.comI scored 25 373 in Time Spy Extreme
AMD Ryzen 9 9950X, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 x 1, 32768 MB, 64-bit Windows 11}www.3dmark.comI scored 42 607 in Time Spy
AMD Ryzen 9 9950X, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 x 1, 32768 MB, 64-bit Windows 11}www.3dmark.comI scored 240 062 in Solar Bay
AMD Ryzen 9 9950X, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 x 1, 32768 MB, 64-bit Windows 11}www.3dmark.comI scored 109 840 in Wild Life Extreme
AMD Ryzen 9 9950X, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 x 1, 32768 MB, 64-bit Windows 11}www.3dmark.comI scored 209 030 in Wild Life
AMD Ryzen 9 9950X, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 x 1, 32768 MB, 64-bit Windows 11}www.3dmark.comI scored 108 715 in Night Raid
AMD Ryzen 9 9950X, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 x 1, 32768 MB, 64-bit Windows 11}www.3dmark.comI scored 34 576 in Fire Strike Ultra
AMD Ryzen 9 9950X, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 x 1, 32768 MB, 64-bit Windows 11}www.3dmark.comI scored 54 120 in Fire Strike Extreme
AMD Ryzen 9 9950X, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 x 1, 32768 MB, 64-bit Windows 11}www.3dmark.comI scored 70 394 in Fire Strike
AMD Ryzen 9 9950X, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 x 1, 32768 MB, 64-bit Windows 11}www.3dmark.com