Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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Their neighbor backed by all of US + Europe supplies. Which will no longer be united and delivered.
If Ukraine is not secured, the world will change. The shield will be broken, the door blown wide open. MAGA will usher in the death of Europe by assisting the Eastern Bloc in various ways.
You are making claims that the EU cannot stand for itself. I find that claim somewhat dubious.
 
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K1052

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Not just that but all brigades are not created equal. For example the US has far fewer brigades than either one of those but do we really question who would win in a stand up fight?

Especially since Soviet tradition is to stand up brand new brigades all over the place instead of reinforcing existing ones. The Ukrainians inherited this habit from them. They have finally stopped this practice and are now reinforcing what they have instead plus starting to move to a corps system. These are very necessary reforms.
 

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Like predicted years ago, the time for the latest murrica proxy to join the team is near here. Bless him for the good job. View attachment 116994

I wouldn't spend much time on the predictions of fascist asshole fans, not on this 3 Day War. You shouldn't either.

US now has a treasonous, drug addicted convicted felon who wants to remake the world for fascists, while giving our allies the finger. There is no attachment to democracy or the rule of law with him. We're kind of in unprecedented territory now, despite whatever Cadet Bonespurs himself or some Praeger "University" sockpuppet says.
 
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trenchfoot

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I wouldn't spend much time on the predictions of fascist asshole fans, not on this 3 Day War. You shouldn't either.

US now has a treasonous, drug addicted convicted felon who wants to remake the world for fascists, while giving our allies the finger. There is no attachment to democracy or the rule of law with him. We're kind of in unprecedented territory now, despite whatever Cadet Bonespurs himself or some Praeger "University" sockpuppet says.

The endgame that Trump is after is what's on my mind. Backtracking from his sole purpose of enriching himself beyond his wildest dreams and the things he needs to accomplish to gets there gives me a pretty good prognosis of the why's and the who's and the when's and where's of the current moves he's making. It's stands to reason why he and his cronies want to make chaos and confusion their sleight of hand trick to make things happen without it being noticed before it's too late to do anything about. Classic conservative warfare/lawfare in action.

That the Republican party itself is practiced in this art of being sneaky while appearing to be in everybody's faces jives quite well with Trump's MO. No small wonder they are in sync with each other. Add to that the fact that they really don't care if they're branded as liars and hypocrites so long as they can bully their way into owning people's lives and determining their fates no questions asked or given shits over.
 

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About that...
Ukraine is currently stronger than the rest of Europe... COMBINED.
The head of the Ukrainian state noted that Russia currently has around 220 combat brigades. In comparison, Ukraine has 110 combat brigades, while Europe has 80.

If Russia defeats Ukraine, and maintains a full military economy supported by the Eastern Bloc, they will sweep further countries away like cobwebs.
USA betrays NATO, pulls Turkey aside. Former Soviet slaves Serbia, Hungary and Slovakia split the continent, and what remains to stop Putin are ONLY the UK and France's nuclear weapons.
Nah... Finland and Poland will tear through the Russian forces and be in Moscow in 3 days.

Let just remember that Ukraine did not have a fully equipped and trained NATO force when Russia invaded, and despite this Russia can only take 20% of Ukraine. How in the world is Russia going to take over Europe?

Where is all this chicken-little talk coming from?
 
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Jaskalas

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Where is all this chicken-little talk coming from?
Danish intelligence: Russia could be ready for major war against Europe in five years

Russia is all-in, full steam ahead with everything it has + Eastern Bloc supporting it.
Europe is not in a war economy. Europe is sleeping through as Russia tears apart the largest country and largest military standing in their way.
Between Ukraine being the shield guarding the realms of men, and traitors in our midst, it'll only get easier for Russia if Ukraine falls.

Small nations divided and disorganized are not the threat you think they are.
 
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UNCjigga

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I met a Polish/NATO special forces guy back in 2016 while vacationing with friends in Italy. Super chill guy. I asked him about what he thought of Trump and Putin and the future of NATO—mind you this is well before Helsinki or even a hint of any Ukraine invasion. I remember he basically said that without US leadership, NATO would probably dissolve and he doubted any European alternative could take its place. While member states would wish to maintain a European alliance, NONE OF THEM would submit to Brussels (EU) being in charge of it.
 

feralkid

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Nah... Finland and Poland will tear through the Russian forces and be in Moscow in 3 days.

Let just remember that Ukraine did not have a fully equipped and trained NATO force when Russia invaded, and despite this Russia can only take 20% of Ukraine. How in the world is Russia going to take over Europe?

Where is all this chicken-little talk coming from?
Pants shitters gotta do their thing.
 

JTsyo

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I met a Polish/NATO special forces guy back in 2016 while vacationing with friends in Italy. Super chill guy. I asked him about what he thought of Trump and Putin and the future of NATO—mind you this is well before Helsinki or even a hint of any Ukraine invasion. I remember he basically said that without US leadership, NATO would probably dissolve and he doubted any European alternative could take its place. While member states would wish to maintain a European alliance, NONE OF THEM would submit to Brussels (EU) being in charge of it.
Look at Ukraine though. They are not even in NATO and they getting a lot of help. I would think even if NATO dissolves if Russia invades the Baltics or Poland, western Europe would step up. Looking at it from Russia's POV I would think the best course of action would be for them to lie low for a generation and lull Europe before making a move.
 

trenchfoot

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Look at Ukraine though. They are not even in NATO and they getting a lot of help. I would think even if NATO dissolves if Russia invades the Baltics or Poland, western Europe would step up. Looking at it from Russia's POV I would think the best course of action would be for them to lie low for a generation and lull Europe before making a move.
It seems to me that Trump helping Putin win his war by alienating the USA from NATO is in a sense actually helping the remaining NATO members defeat Putin by having them become more self-reliant toward defending Western Europe and its allies from Putin's grand design of resurrecting the USSR. With hope and a lot of grit, the NATO alliance will be able to survive Trump's push to help Putin negotiate a stand-in-place ceasefire so Putin can have the time to rearm and finish his 3 Day Special Military Operation with a complete victory over Ukraine.
 

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Look at Ukraine though. They are not even in NATO and they getting a lot of help. I would think even if NATO dissolves if Russia invades the Baltics or Poland, western Europe would step up. Looking at it from Russia's POV I would think the best course of action would be for them to lie low for a generation and lull Europe before making a move.

A Russian incursion into either the Baltics or Poland would be the end of Russia. One way or another.
 

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Talking to the Euros like you are headlining CPAC is...a choice. When you don't know how to do anything besides US right wing grievance your persuasion skills are bound to be rather limited outside that bubble.

Nobody laughed at this "joke" and the only people who applauded when he was done were a few US Senators. Everybody else stayed seated and silent.

 
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Talking to the Euros like you are headlining CPAC is...a choice. When you don't know how to do anything besides US right wing grievance your persuasion skills are bound to be rather limited outside that bubble.

Nobody laughed at this "joke" and the only people who applauded when he was done were a few US Senators. Everybody else stayed seated and silent.

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He has the personality of a wet paper bag.
 

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Trump has abandoned NATO, Europe stands alone against the Eastern Bloc.
Will Europe defend itself before North Koreans grace Berlin or Warsaw?

Laughing Kremlin Insiders Say Trump Has Given Putin Greenlight to Expand the War
Emboldened by Trump’s words, Putin’s pals believe Russia can launch new attacks in Europe without any fear of American retaliation.
Worse... Trump abandoned NATO and Putin the BRICS.
This is gonna end very badly for the world... the war is about to reach everyone.
The worse scenario is happening... the world vs USA, Russia and extremist allies...
 

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Trump wants to end Ukraine war quickly and if the west gives some concessions to Russia we can have a "Peace for our time". I can see how Munich would be a natural choice for negotiations...
 
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Trump wants to end Ukraine war quickly and if the west gives some concessions to Russia we can have a "Peace for our time". I can see how Munich would be a natural choice for negotiations...
Trump just wants to sign papers, act like everyone likes him, and be in front of the camera. He doesn't actually give a shit about anything.
 
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