yeah it would dingus, it's a new (well, long abandoned) swimlane of extended graphics configs.
The last time anything Intel GT3e shipped was Coffee Lake-U all the way back in what, 2018?
yeah it would dingus, it's a new (well, long abandoned) swimlane of extended graphics configs.And if AMD actually intended these for sale primarily to gamers the first SKU out in the wild wouldn't be a 13-inch tablet and business laptops with MBP-rivaling prices.
If your only concern is gaming performance, you are not the target market for this chip.
not really, no.But the market for over $1000 Windows laptops is tiny enough as it is
Kinda.Gaming Laptops is probably most of that.
wrong.OEMs probably wouldn't be interested in Strix Halo no matter the usefulness.
Yes, I know that. I was stating the all core clock increase between M4 Pro and M3 Pro which is around 9%.M3 was already on N3B versus STX Halo is on N4P.
On a thin 13" model with Halo you can fit a much larger battery and the VRAM limit is now lifted because Halo uses the whole system RAM.In terms of raw gaming performance, I just don't see the appeal of strix halo over a traditional gaming laptop.
They don't need to. Silent mode sets it to 30-35W total system power.The lower power draw and better battery life is definitely a plus. I won't argue there. But most people aren't going to tinker with power limits.
It makes sense from a performance per watt standpoint. Makes zero sense from an economic sense.
What you are missing is that Strix Halo will only be used on very expensive devices.
It'll still be competitive. Those are all highly parallel workloads. Zen 6 won't even catch up to M4 in SPECint 1T.Also looking at this I don’t see how M4 will be able to compete in 2026. Thinking M4 is enough to compete with Medusa Halo is crazy talk.
I posted this earlier in the thread, but Strix Halo's iGPU isn't powerful enough to play new AAA games without turning down settings anyways. A 5070 mobile is going to give a better experience even in VRAM limited games like Indiana Jones.On a thin 13" model with Halo you can fit a much larger battery and the VRAM limit is now lifted because Halo uses the whole system RAM.
Good luck playing games on a 8GB dGPU in 2025 forward even at 1080p, which is what you get on the 4070M and will most probably get on the Blackwell equivalent.
That's a lot more watts and money.A 5080 mobile is going to give a better experience even in VRAM limited games like Indiana Jones.
Sorry, I meant 5070 mobile, corrected.That's a lot more watts and money.
Worthless.
Crazy thought:Frankly they can SKU an 8+40 or 8+36 config for more paletable price points.
And there's always that pesky 8GB limit on the 4070m, probably on the 5070m as well.This will take up to 70 class GPUs laptops when the prices come down in the coming years.
Cutting down a CCD would probably bring zero difference in gaming performance. If anything, it would probably increase performance because more watts would be available for the iGPU.Cut-down Strix Halo with one CCD (I presume MAX 385 and under) is not actually a 4070m competitor though if these benchmarks are anything to go by.
No, different link.Could AMD match a 12-core Zen5c CCD from Turin Dense with the Halo IOD?
Nope, these have IFOPs.Could AMD match a 12-core Zen5c CCD from Turin Dense with the Halo IOD?
that one sucks.Sorry, I meant 5070 mobile, corrected.
And a vast, vast majority of the people would look at the pricing, then go buy the Switch 2/Steam Deck instead and keep the change. The super high end gaming handheld market does not have enough volume to tap on.I'm a lot more likely to spend 1800€ on a handheld with a Strix Halo than 900€ on a RX 9070XT.
I don't have better options for the former, but I do for the latter. And there's a good chance I would use the handheld a lot more.
In the theoretical dreamscape that such a cut down SKU would preserve the whole iGPU, maybe. In the whole history of AMD APU releases we have never seen such a SKU offered. Every single binned variant with cut down CPU also came with cut down GPU configs, expecting anything different for Strix Halo is fantasy.Cutting down a CCD would probably bring zero difference in gaming performance. If anything, it would probably increase performance because more watts would be available for the iGPU.
Well it's not binned, you just yoink the other CCD.Every single binned variant with cut down CPU also came with cut down GPU configs, expecting anything different for Strix Halo is fantasy.
this cope again?Zen 6 won't even catch up to M4 in SPECint 1T.
Nope, these have IFOPs.
I posted this earlier in the thread, but Strix Halo's iGPU isn't powerful enough to play new AAA games without turning down settings anyways.
A 5070 mobile is going to give a better experience even in VRAM limited games like Indiana Jones.
and put it under the Ryzen Z2 Ultra branding.Frankly they can SKU an 8+40 or 8+36 config for more paletable price points.
not really, no.
they wanna Mx Pro compete.
what.Go look on Amazon and see what consumers actually buy. You'll see what I mean.
Nope.Strix Halo was absoultely designed for gaming first... and got repurposed for AI because of the hype.
People buy macs because they're macs.People buy Macs to get away from Windows because Windows is so crappy now.
Who is coping? AMD being two years behind is a new record. They were on par with Zen 3 to M1 despite the process disadvantage.this cope again?
Not really, no. There's that one subtest.They were on par with Zen 3 to M1.
new core + N2p hello helloStrix Halo, as the future, shows not to expect much.
Windows is good for gaming and windows only apps. I mean I use both.People buy Macs to get away from Windows because Windows is so crappy now.