Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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K1052

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You should remind them that people on Medicaid and SS don't need their payment in Bradley IFVs that have been in storage since the Gulf War. Though, with the way things are going, maybe they would accept such payments now...

The state of California hereby accepts six fully armed Ohio Class SSBNs and the entire greater San Diego military complex plus based assets as a replacement for undispersed Medicaid funding.

The California Republic Navy sails with the tide.
 

Roger Wilco

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Find out what programs they are on and suggest they take 50% cuts lol.

You should remind them that people on Medicaid and SS don't need their payment in Bradley IFVs that have been in storage since the Gulf War. Though, with the way things are going, maybe they would accept such payments now...

Oh they are far too gone for such logic. I might as well convince them that Trump is a Kenyan national with orange face on. “Show us the birth certificate Donald Hussein!”
 

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Muse

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... 2 Trump supporters have already tried to take him out, and the closer this gets to happening, I suspect some far more capable and far more seriously connected entities are going to go for Ben Franklin's alternative solution.....
This would not surprise me and it's my kind of schadenfreude.
 

Muse

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Some talk circulating that Trump now wants a "simplified" minerals deal in exchange for continued US military aid. Presumably this would not actually hold Ukraine to anything specific. In typical Trump fashion he could be willing to sell something as a win that really doesn't mean anything.
Always the transactional approach for Donald Trump. Can't teach an old dog new tricks.
 

hal2kilo

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The state of California hereby accepts six fully armed Ohio Class SSBNs and the entire greater San Diego military complex plus based assets as a replacement for undispersed Medicaid funding.

The California Republic Navy sails with the tide.
Park a couple at Pt. Magoo and send the rest to San Diego.
 

Pens1566

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The state of California hereby accepts six fully armed Ohio Class SSBNs and the entire greater San Diego military complex plus based assets as a replacement for undispersed Medicaid funding.

The California Republic Navy sails with the tide.

SD gets you about half the SEAL Teams (depending on deployments) as well. Smart.
 
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kage69

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The genocide cuck is back? He heard Trump's epic gaslighting and decided to pick those poms poms back up for the Kremlin. Sad.


Seems that Putin and Trump will make the impossible: China and Europe becomes allies.

The issue? Israel and Arabs are enemies now.

I doubt it. Trump being a epic douchebag doesn't exactly invalidate the animus currently held between many in the EU and the CCP. China's economy is crashing in spectacular fashion, manufacturing is a shadow of it's former self, and the EU knows they want to do to Taiwan what Russia is doing to Ukraine. CCP will always support other dictatorships over democracies, and the Euros know it. Prime 'get screwed over' territory there. Working on common areas of interest, but with plenty of ideological boundaries? Sure. But actual allies? Unlikely. Beijing is still plenty butthurt from all the 'de-risking' the EU has done these last many years, it's why foreign investment in China has basically collapsed. I don't think the CCP's goal of doing to the Taiwanese what it is doing to the Uighurs is going to win them much European support or goodwill, certainly not when it will include serious economic damage for well, everyone.

Look to the other side of the continent. Turkey is part of Europe, and there is 'beef in the mail' now wrt to China thanks to Assad being overthrown. The Turkic fighters who were being supplied and trained by Turkey to fight in Syria are now in need of another campaign, or it's off to Ukraine (doubtful) or disbanding (more doubtful). No idea how it will shake out but I think it's safe to say things aren't getting more peaceful from here on out. Not with mentally deranged traitors and genocidal dictators trying to shatter the world in order to determine the rebuilding.
 
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kage69

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Looks like Macron and Starmer are going to try and talk some sense into shit-for-brains. Good luck with that guys. The orange manchild with dementia is either in love with Putin or being blackmailed by him, but I suppose you should try. Erdoğan should be doing same. Trump sounds pretty determined to be the 21st century's Neville Chamberlain though.


"WASHINGTON, Feb 20 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump will host meetings with French President Emmanuel Macron on Monday and with British Prime Minister Keir Starmer on Thursday, White House spokeswoman Karoline Leavitt said."
 
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Jaskalas

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Trump sounds pretty determined to be the 21st century's Neville Chamberlain though.
That's a very flattering outlook compared to the very real probably of us being Italy.
There is an Axis of Evil and I suspect MAGA plays a leading role.

The US is now trying to force pro-Russia governments into power throughout Europe.
That's not a passive role we are playing.
 

Roger Wilco

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Art of the deal

The intrigue: Sources on both sides now say a deal is now looking more likely.

  • A source with knowledge said several of Zelensky's aides have encouraged him to sign the updated proposal to avoid a further clash with Trump and allow the U.S. president to justify further U.S. support for Ukraine.
  • "There was significant improvement in the recent draft and it is in conformity with Ukrainian law," the source said.
  • National security adviser Mike Waltz told reporters Thursday that Zelensky needed to "come back to the table" on the minerals issue.
  • "This is a negotiation. And in a negotiation, you negotiate. Ukraine wants to negotiate minerals, so we're talking about it," a White House official said.”
 
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Some talk circulating that Trump now wants a "simplified" minerals deal in exchange for continued US military aid. Presumably this would not actually hold Ukraine to anything specific. In typical Trump fashion he could be willing to sell something as a win that really doesn't mean anything.
It looks like we managed to agree on at least something. I'm just a little worried that what we agreed with Kellogg might be misconstrued by Trump.

 
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Looks like Macron and Starmer are going to try and talk some sense into shit-for-brains. Good luck with that guys. The orange manchild with dementia is either in love with Putin or being blackmailed by him, but I suppose you should try. Erdoğan should be doing same. Trump sounds pretty determined to be the 21st century's Neville Chamberlain though.


"WASHINGTON, Feb 20 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump will host meetings with French President Emmanuel Macron on Monday and with British Prime Minister Keir Starmer on Thursday, White House spokeswoman Karoline Leavitt said."
I have a hard time believing that Trump could ever be held back with blackmail. Look at all the shit that is known publicly and he just shrugs it off and denies it, and his lapdogs rush out to lick up the lies.

I think Trump just loves authoritarians. He likes the aesthetic of doing what he wants, and not having to work with other stakeholders and power centers.
 
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kage69

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I have a hard time believing that Trump could ever be held back with blackmail. Look at all the shit that is known publicly and he just shrugs it off and denies it, and his lapdogs rush out to lick up the lies.

I think Trump just loves authoritarians. He likes the aesthetic of doing what he wants, and not having to work with other stakeholders and power centers.

There is definitely some sick admiration involved, but that is kind of what gangsters do - and Trump has been a laundry servant for Russian money since the 90s. It all depends on the kompromat I suppose; it's true being exposed as a crook and rapist didn't bother him much, but insecure people obsessed with image are easier to manipulate than others. A certain kind of macho guy might not care much about having his pitiful grades or poor business performance exposed, but I can see (for instance) a narcissist who sees himself as a lady's man going pale over being made aware pics of his impotent baby carrot exist.

I'm just hesitant to ascribe Trump's betrayal and surrender of Ukraine to 100% pure, unadulterated Putin adoration. Putin applies pressure to him somehow, we all saw how he looked after that meeting in Helsinki.
 
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