Trump blames Ukraine for starting the war with Russia

MrSquished · Thursday at 6:27 PM

At this point in time one could say that current American Foreign policy is literally being organized from inside the Kremlin and being executed by the Trump party.

eelw · Thursday at 7:55 PM

Indus said:
I would love some nukes going off and 74 million Trumpanzees barbequed.

Lol with that MAGAtard only nuke???

Indus · Thursday at 8:22 PM

eelw said:
Lol with that MAGAtard only nuke???

I wouldn't mind if one fell on me.. no more bills to pay!

It'd be quite merciful actually!

Only the good die young.. only evil seems to live forever!

VRAMdemon · Thursday at 8:53 PM

Lol! .. Trump again doubling down and saying – against all evidence and common sense – that Ukraine started the war and that Zelensky – not Putin – is a “dictator”

Ignoring backlash, Trump leans into false claim about Zelenskyy being a ‘dictator’

Presidents only get so much political capital, and Trump has decided to invest his finite capital into supporting Putin's authoritarian regime in Moscow.

www.msnbc.com

Just … weird/bizarre. (But that's everything he does). What is he hoping to gain? Public opinion? Does he think we’ll say “Well, I didn’t realize Zelenskyy was a dictator! That changes everything! Go ahead, give Putin everything he wants.”

He cannot tell the difference between good and bad. He thinks dictator Putin is the good guy and Zelensky caused the war and is the bad corrupt guy. Watch how his ratings will get much worse as his mental impairment becomes more obvious.

feralkid · Thursday at 9:06 PM

VRAMdemon said:
Watch how his ratings will get much worse as his mental impairment becomes more obvious.

Another recipe for HOPE.

Thanks.

Jaskalas · Thursday at 9:27 PM

VRAMdemon said:
Just … weird/bizarre. (But that's everything he does). What is he hoping to gain? Public opinion? Does he think we’ll say “Well, I didn’t realize Zelenskyy was a dictator! That changes everything! Go ahead, give Putin everything he wants.”

If you do not know what Trump gains....

You need to understand how humans function mentally. Trump is the head of the MAGA religion. As if he is the Pope back when the Pope was taken seriously. ANYTHING he tells the faithful, they take to heart. They internalize as god's will. They don't care if it is a bald faced lie, they WILL believe it. And propagandists like Elon Musk will fan the flames and provide the "data" to back up their claims. It's all for show because PEOPLE literally WILL believe anything. ANYTHING!!!!

If Trump says Europe is Evil and Russia must destroy it. Then by god, MAGA will want to destroy Europe.

You need to understand just how detached from reality humans can be. We have no direct tether to it. We must be conditioned to seek the truth, to value reason and logic. Or we are just cave men. Look around the earth today, and throughout all of human history. We have always operated this way. We burn witches. We kill others. We are evil by nature. It requires a strong handed institution to educate and condition us to do better. When those fail, we are only ever one madman away from becoming Nazis ourselves.

That day has arrived. America has already fallen. There is no peaceful way back from the cliff. We are past the point of talking or reasoning our way out of Trump's death cult. Remember 2020. They think elections are fake. They believe our Democracy is dead. Now they act to make good on that. They have come for our allies. They have come for us.

[DHT]Osiris · 2025-02-21T08:20:42-0500

GodisanAtheist said:
Does Ukraine have a GoFundMe I can throw some money at or...

This whole thread seems like a Red Wedding-esq trap to lure in all the pro-Russian trolls and... find a solution to them in one fell swoop.

UNITED24 - The initiative of the President of Ukraine

UNITED24 was launched by the President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy as the main venue for collecting charitable donations in support of Ukraine. Funds will be transferred to the official accounts of the National Bank of Ukraine and allocated by assigned ministries to cover the most pressing needs

u24.gov.ua

That's the official govt site for public donations.

[DHT]Osiris · 2025-02-21T08:38:27-0500

Sure, why not here.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1892679992686895559

Not even an anonymous source!

GodisanAtheist · 2025-02-21T10:33:06-0500

[DHT]Osiris said:
Sure, why not here.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1892679992686895559

Not even an anonymous source!

-As good an explanation as any...

Pens1566 · 2025-02-21T11:39:06-0500

GodisanAtheist said:
-As good an explanation as any...

It's not the first time it's been mentioned. Also reports that Ivana was honeypot/handler.

hal2kilo · 2025-02-21T11:43:48-0500

[DHT]Osiris said:
Sure, why not here.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1892679992686895559

Not even an anonymous source!

Are you expecting me to be surprised. I've long suspected that the dossier barely scrapped the surface.

lixlax · 2025-02-21T12:00:21-0500

Well his behaviour, talking points and methods of influence have been very similar to other Russian influence agents. For the past few months hes been following the book with almost 100% precision without even trying to hide it. These kind of agents are planted all over the western world, some are just more succesful than others. The war essentially started when Ukrainians removed theirs from power.

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Ignoring backlash, Trump leans into false claim about Zelenskyy being a ‘dictator’

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