Poll: Do you care about ray tracing / upscaling?

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Thunder 57

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Technically I should be fine at 3220x1440 ultra looking at that. I wasn't so keen on Doom Eternal, it was a bit too 'modify this weapon, do a glory kill to replenish your ammo'.
I just want to shoot things and not think about it when playing Doom, but apparently this is going back to that!

I'm willing to bet that id do RT that doesn't bring your system to its knees as well!

I don't know why Doom Eternal got such praise. They basically said "you have to play the game the way we want you to, or you will die a lot". Having to resource harvest and doing all that aerial acrobatics got old real quick. Glad they are going back to "play it your way", supposedly. I find Doom 2016 to be far surperior.
 

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LOL at VR. Who didn't see that coming? It was always going to be the next 3DTV gimmick, just somewhat less bad. People generally don't want to wear stupid crap on their heads just to use something.
You hush your mouth. Thrill of the fight and Beat Saber are as close to the gaming I fantasized about as a punk kid in the 80s, as there is so far. TotF entirely replaced shadow boxing for me. I had to designate my OG Oculus Quest to those games because you will sweat your ass off. The Mrs won the Quest 2 at a party. I use that for netflix, Amazon VR, that kind of stuff.

They call try hard PC gamers sweaties. Dorito and Mt. Dew laced geek sweat using a mouse and keyboard is weaksauce. VR gamers are the real sweaties.
idTech has always been great in my experience.
You could always depend on them and 3D Realms for a good time. Prey 2006 was a surprise hit for me. I think it is the first time I played a video game inside of a video game.
 

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You hush your mouth. Thrill of the fight and Beat Saber are as close to the gaming I fantasized about as a punk kid in the 80s, as there is so far. TotF entirely replaced shadow boxing for me. I had to designate my OG Oculus Quest to those games because you will sweat your ass off. The Mrs won the Quest 2 at a party. I use that for netflix, Amazon VR, that kind of stuff.

They call try hard PC gamers sweaties. Dorito and Mt. Dew laced geek sweat using a mouse and keyboard is weaksauce. VR gamers are the real sweaties.

You could always depend on them and 3D Realms for a good time. Prey 2006 was a surprise hit for me. I think it is the first time I played a video game inside of a video game.

What can I say, VR just isn't my thing. At least it's gotten better since Virtual Boy though!

I like that idTech has never used DirectX. The Doom 2016 launch was a bit less than ideal since OpenGL seemed to be an afterthought and Vulcan came a month or two later IIRC. The performance was good but I seem to remember it crashing loading maps on occasion. Must've been though AMD drivers though . Never played much 3D Realms stuff other than Wolenstein 3D and Duke Nuke'em. That supid "ARRDWOLF" maze might've been the worst idea though.
 
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What can I say, VR just isn't my thing. At least it's gotten better since Virtual Boy though!
That's like saying high end gaming PC is at least better than the TI-99/4A.
Never played much 3D Realms stuff other than Wolenstein 3D and Duke Nuke'em. That supid "ARRDWOLF" maze might've been the worst idea though.
You missed a real jewel in Prey.
 

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idTech has always been great in my experience. I originally ran Doom 2016 fine with a 270X I got at firesale pricing after the first (?) crypto bust. $100 on eBay IIRC.
I played most of the game on a GTX 950 2GB I paid around $80 for. Ran great, even at 1920x1200 it was mostly a solid 60fps.

Edit: TPU charts have the 950 and 270X at near identical performance, so checks out.

 

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That's like saying high end gaming PC is at least better than the TI-99/4A.

You missed a real jewel in Prey.

I'm open to playing old games for the first time. Only recently did I play Doom 64 for the first time, despite owning an N64. Not a huge fan thus far.
 

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You hush your mouth. Thrill of the fight and Beat Saber are as close to the gaming I fantasized about as a punk kid in the 80s, as there is so far. TotF entirely replaced shadow boxing for me. I had to designate my OG Oculus Quest to those games because you will sweat your ass off. The Mrs won the Quest 2 at a party. I use that for netflix, Amazon VR, that kind of stuff.

They call try hard PC gamers sweaties. Dorito and Mt. Dew laced geek sweat using a mouse and keyboard is weaksauce. VR gamers are the real sweaties.

You could always depend on them and 3D Realms for a good time. Prey 2006 was a surprise hit for me. I think it is the first time I played a video game inside of a video game.

Prey 2006 was really good, I played it many years after it came out. I like that part where you walk around on a rock inside a glass case. One VR game with a similar feel as this is Psychonauts in the Rhombus of Ruin. It has a sense of different scales where you see the same world as a big or small character.
 
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Game is broken. Shouldn't need a high end video card plus fake frames to be playable.
It’s not broken. It’s a really good game, I been playing it without path tracing, just RT only. Normal RT is really good.

You what is broken? Path tracing, an unbelievable amount of stress for current GPUs. It’s a feature that is to be ignored no matter what game, no matter how much NV pushes it.


Turning on PT turns Indy below 20 fps on my 4070S and with normal RT maxed out I get 120+fps with DLSS set to quality with NO FG.
 

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RDNA4 will excel in RT compared to RDNA3 and will do bad in PT but NV does bad here as well.
This like how NV pushed RT in 2018 when it wasn’t ready and now in 2025 it is ready for current gen cards and it’s easy to run RT enabled games.

So what does NV do, hmmm let’s increase the scope of what RT means even further, to show why you need to upgrade your GPU.
 

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Btw, update 3 for Indy added FSR3.1 and XeSS.

Meaning we can drop in FSR4 later this month. Great to see ID software add this even in an NV sponsored game, something CD project can learn from as they don’t support FSR3.1
 
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jpiniero

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You what is broken? Path tracing, an unbelievable amount of stress for current GPUs. It’s a feature that is to be ignored no matter what game, no matter how much NV pushes it.

I mean, if you are going to have that opinion, may as well just stick with 2D.
 

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I mean, if you are going to have that opinion, may as well just stick with 2D.
That was your takeaway?

Stating that path tracing is years off for useability, by no means indicates being a Luddite.

I happen to agree. I'll use it when it is fairly ubiquitous and runs well enough on every vendor's mid range.
 

jpiniero

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That was your takeaway?

Stating that path tracing is years off for useability, by no means indicates being a Luddite.

I happen to agree. I'll use it when it is fairly ubiquitous and runs well enough on every vendor's mid range.

I think you are going to be in luck, because most devs are chasing gacha instead of prettier graphics.
 
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