Question Old HDD Into New Computer, But It Still Takes Several Minutes to Boot Into Windows: Will Cloning To An SSD Help?

catboy

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I just transplanted my old HDD into my new computer.

I've been using that HDD since probably 2016 or so. It's a WD Black.

On that HDD, I have recently ran every possible hardware diagnostic test, with various different software products, that I could find for free, and it always passes all of the tests, and no problems are noted by any of the software.

I really hate having to re-do all the millions of things that I'd need to do if I were to do a clean install of Windows; therefore, I try to avoid doing clean installs whenever possible.

On the other hand, I don't want to be stuck with a new computer that still takes forever to boot.

I have disabled all of the startup processes that I don't need in Task Manager.

It takes probably eight to ten minutes from the time I power on my computer, until the time when I am fully logged into Windows 10 and able to interact with the Windows UI.

Every time I start my computer, I am forced to spend many minutes of waiting for Windows to load, as I watch blue circles spinning around a black screen (but I can move my cursor around at this point), followed by gray dots comprising a circle spinning around for several more minutes at the logon screen.

My new computer is running a 9800X3D with 64 GB of CL 28 RAM and on an 870E motherboard.

I have installed a new Gen 4 SSD into my new computer, but I haven't yet done anything with it.

As far as I can tell, my only options that might possibly fix me having to wait forever to boot into Windows are:

1. Do a clean install of Windows 10 onto my new SSD. Or

2. Clone my old HDD onto my new SSD.

I'd prefer to do option 2, if that would actually work to solve the problem of my boot time taking eons.

But, if I were to do option 2, and then my boot time were still to take eons anyway, then I'd be upset that I wasted write endurance on my new SSD to clone my whole hard drive onto it, even though I'm just going to have to format it again right after that, and do a clean install of Windows after all.

Can you guys please advise me about this matter?

Would cloning my HDD to my SSD likely solve my problem of an uber-slow boot time?

Or would that probably not solve my problem, just like a new motherboard and new RAM didn't solve my problem?
 

Jimminy

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I'd take an image of the current hard drive and restore it to the new SSD. Cloning will also work, but sometimes you can have problems due to it having the exact same disk identifiers. I use the free version of macrium reflect, but you should use whichever imaging software you are most familiar with. There are several very good ones.

You will notice a much faster boot, unless the cause is not your hard drive, but some other hardware or software problem.
 
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C1

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If you transferred your HDD into a new system (with different MB) and the system is now behaving slow, there is a good chance there is a drive issue (eg, conflict such as system having to search for correct/alternate driver to install).

What is the boot time if you boot up in safe mode (as this minimizes use of drivers)?

Running the system from SSD will improve boot time, but probably not sufficiently. Something is not right with the system and it would be best to correct it instead of mask it.

When an OS is installed from new, typically all the applicable correct drivers for the hardware are needed to be installed just after the OS installs. These include chipset, graphics, network, sound, port drivers, utilities (eg, power manager). These drivers come with the MB if a custom built system or they are down loaded from the vendors website if the system is from one of the major vendors such as DELL, HP, Lenovo, etc.

Dont worry about writing too much to your SSD, they are very hardy and it probably will out last your computer. (When you get done though, make sure "Trim" is enabled.)

Image the HDD to the SSD, then you can mess with things and attempt a repair of the current system. I would in fact, do a system repair (sfc /scannow) along with loading the correct drivers specified for the new MB beginning with the chipset then graphics. Make sure that these drivers correctly register in "System - Device Manager."


Good luck
 
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catboy

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If you transferred your HDD into a new system (with different MB) and the system is now behaving slow, there is a good chance there is a drive issue (eg, conflict such as system having to search for correct/alternate driver to install).

What is the boot time if you boot up in safe mode (as this minimizes use of drivers)?

The thing is, I had the exact same uber-slow boot times before moving the hard drive into the new computer.

So that's why I think that this particular problem isn't caused by the move to new hardware.

I didn't test the boot time in safe mode, but I will try that tomorrow.

I did install all of the drivers.

I will run a scannow /sfc and DISM repair (which I also did many times with my old computer, and they never fixed the uber-slow boot problem).

Thanks for your help, C1 and Anita.
 
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catboy

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Today I ran a stopwatch to test how long it takes my system to boot into Windows.

In normal mode, it takes 5 minutes and 19 seconds before I am fully loaded into Windows and ready to surf the internet.

To pass the logon screen of Windows take about 3 minutes, but then more stuff is still loading, so I am not able to use it until I wait until 5 minutes and 19 seconds.

Then I rebooted into safe mode with networking.

That took 2 minutes and 28 seconds to get past the Windows logon screen. And then I didn't have to wait any longer, because nothing else was loading once I was in Windows in safe mode.

I saw see a post from C1 saying I could try to test with the "selective startup" option, so I will try that tonight or tomorrow.
 

AnitaPeterson

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Before you start playing with BIOS and startup services, if you have a SSD handy, just try cloning your HDD to it using the free Macrium cloning utility.
It will take much less time than you think, and once you try to boot from SSD the results will be clear.

Since it's a HDD, maybe the data is just fragmented?
 
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