Did Trump just start WW III?

MtnMan · Feb 28, 2025

Did Trump just make it clear that the conflicts in his mind with Ukraine and his love for Putin just laid the groundwork for WW III?

Trump wants the lithium resources that Ukraine has.
Trump is love sick over Putin and wants to imitate him, especially the tough guy part.

Today's meeting with Trump, puppet Vance, and Zelenskyy is probably the groundwork for WW III. This sick, stupid little man wants to be the tough guy and simply control everything, thus the press were invited to the meeting. His simpering little stooge Vance took Trumps dick out of his mouth long enough to show his complete incompetence to even be in the room.

The damage done to this country as that display of utter incompetence as the video circulates around the world cannot be underestimated. It shows all of our allies, that we are not the enemy, and will turn the free world against the US.

brycejones · Mar 1, 2025

It at least laid the groundwork for several new nuclear states. No one can depend on our umbrella anymore.

MtnMan · Mar 1, 2025

brycejones said:
It at least laid the groundwork for several new nuclear states. No one can depend on our umbrella anymore.

I wonder if Musk has finalized the contract to build the "iron dome" yet.

cytg111 · Mar 1, 2025

It sure sounds like its Russia running things now.

trenchfoot · Mar 1, 2025

This ambush of Zelenskyy at the now infamous presser exposed how Trump and his lackey Vance have abandoned Ukraine's effort to keep its independence, its identity as a sovereign democratically led nation and allow one of our nation's most hated enemies in the form of Putin to take a pause in his war on Ukraine under the guise of a Trump inspired peace deal just so Trump can give Putin enough time to rearm and finish the job of forcing Ukraine into his control.

That Trump never offered security assurances to Zelenskyy in this distractive mineral deal is all one needs to know how Putin and Trump is arranging for Ukraine's demise.

One can only hope that the majority of the people who voted for Trump will rise up and make it clear and simple that they are on the side of Ukraine and against Putin's effort to wipe Ukraine's existence from the face of the earth. And even then it may not be enough for Trump to risk exposing his mysterious bond with Putin. That gorilla in the room that no one from Trump's party dares to expose to the light of day is even more mysterious given that our own intelligence agencies will not divulge for the sake of the security of our nation. It will probably suffer the same fate as the shimmering contents of that briefcase Jules Winnfield was in possession of. Yet wouldn't the answer to that solve a host of problems that Trump is causing the nation he is now in the process of dismantling?

trenchfoot · Mar 1, 2025

Question being, will Trump finally push things too far such that the folks who voted to give him a second chance at proving what a great dictator he can be will neuter him in the upcoming midterms by forcing Congress to take back their balls that they handed to Trump and Elon on Day 1 of their dictatorship?

cytg111 · Mar 1, 2025

I am convinced, it's Putin in the White House.
It's going to get ugly before it gets better.

Take a look at this segment by Maddow "Who is it good for" - spoiler, it's a Russian guy.

'Who's that good for?': Maddow connects the dots on Donald Trump's behavior toward Russia

Rachel Maddow looks at a string of peculiar behavior by Donald Trump and Trump administration policies that don't seem to have the welfare of the United States as their goal, and wonders who those policies are good for if they aren't good for the U.S.

www.msnbc.com

Summary:
- Pam Bondi new AG, first day on the job.
1. Disbands task forces on Foreign Influence Task Force.
- Voices on the right argues it's been unfairly used to to target operators like Paul Manafort.
2. Shuts down foreign agents registration act.
3. Disbands task force KleptoCapture, started in 2022 to enforce sanctions on Russia.
4. Halts years old fed law enforcement effort to combat secret influence campaigns by China Russia and other adversaries that try to curry favor.

- Elon Musk
1. CISA, Cybersecurity Infrastructure Security Agency, installs 19yo Eric Coristine "Big Balls" with numerous ties to Russian Cybercrime.
2. USAID. Russia welcomes USAID cuts, calls agency "Machine for interfering" (for one stops help for Ukraine's electrical grid)

- John Ratcliffe
1. CIA plans largest mass firing in 50 years.
2. Ratcliffe sent *unclassified* mail with CIA employees to Office of Personell on EO signed by Trump. National Security Disaster.

- Trump
1. Giving out Security Clearences without background checks.
2. Wants Russia back in G7
3. Trump has been in constant in contact with Putin
4. Send Steve Witkoff to a 4 hour meeting with Putin in Moscow, comes back with Russian propaganda, Ukraine started the war, Zelensky dictator.

That's just the surface of course, we could dig into Tulsi and all the other mobik shady shit.

It is RUSSIA calling the shots now. I guess Europe is going into a land war with Russia & USA.

eelw · Mar 1, 2025

trenchfoot said:
Question being, will Trump finally push things too far such that the folks who voted to give him a second chance at proving what a great dictator he can be will neuter him in the upcoming midterms by forcing Congress to take back their balls that they handed to Trump and Elon on Day 1 of their dictatorship?

Unfortunately nope. Their lips firmly stuck to his pasty white ass. How much lower can they go? Yes sir we’ll start digging more

ivwshane · Mar 1, 2025

cytg111 said:
I am convinced, it's Putin in the White House.
It's going to get ugly before it gets better.

Take a look at this segment by Maddow "Who is it good for" - spoiler, it's a Russian guy.

'Who's that good for?': Maddow connects the dots on Donald Trump's behavior toward Russia

Rachel Maddow looks at a string of peculiar behavior by Donald Trump and Trump administration policies that don't seem to have the welfare of the United States as their goal, and wonders who those policies are good for if they aren't good for the U.S.

www.msnbc.com

Summary:
- Pam Bondi new AG, first day on the job.
1. Disbands task forces on Foreign Influence Task Force.
- Voices on the right argues it's been unfairly used to to target operators like Paul Manafort.
2. Shuts down foreign agents registration act.
3. Disbands task force KleptoCapture, started in 2022 to enforce sanctions on Russia.
4. Halts years old fed law enforcement effort to combat secret influence campaigns by China Russia and other adversaries that try to curry favor.

- Elon Musk
1. CISA, Cybersecurity Infrastructure Security Agency, installs 19yo Eric Coristine "Big Balls" with numerous ties to Russian Cybercrime.
2. USAID. Russia welcomes USAID cuts, calls agency "Machine for interfering" (for one stops help for Ukraine's electrical grid)

- John Ratcliffe
1. CIA plans largest mass firing in 50 years.
2. Ratcliffe sent *unclassified* mail with CIA employees to Office of Personell on EO signed by Trump. National Security Disaster.

- Trump
1. Giving out Security Clearences without background checks.
2. Wants Russia back in G7
3. Trump has been in constant in contact with Putin
4. Send Steve Witkoff to a 4 hour meeting with Putin in Moscow, comes back with Russian propaganda, Ukraine started the war, Zelensky dictator.

That's just the surface of course, we could dig into Tulsi and all the other mobik shady shit.

It is RUSSIA calling the shots now. I guess Europe is going into a land war with Russia & USA.

This needs to be added to my, “Is Trump a Russian asset” thread. We are well beyond just coincidence now.

NWRMidnight · Mar 1, 2025

trenchfoot said:
This ambush of Zelenskyy at the now infamous presser exposed how Trump and his lackey Vance have abandoned Ukraine's effort to keep its independence, its identity as a sovereign democratically led nation and allow one of our nation's most hated enemies in the form of Putin to take a pause in his war on Ukraine under the guise of a Trump inspired peace deal just so Trump can give Putin enough time to rearm and finish the job of forcing Ukraine into his control.

That Trump never offered security assurances to Zelenskyy in this distractive mineral deal is all one needs to know how Putin and Trump is arranging for Ukraine's demise.

One can only hope that the majority of the people who voted for Trump will rise up and make it clear and simple that they are on the side of Ukraine and against Putin's effort to wipe Ukraine's existence from the face of the earth. And even then it may not be enough for Trump to risk exposing his mysterious bond with Putin. That gorilla in the room that no one from Trump's party dares to expose to the light of day is even more mysterious given that our own intelligence agencies will not divulge for the sake of the security of our nation. It will probably suffer the same fate as the shimmering contents of that briefcase Jules Winnfield was in possession of. Yet wouldn't the answer to that solve a host of problems that Trump is causing the nation he is now in the process of dismantling?

Trump voters can't suppost something they don't understand. Most of them don't have the first clue the importance of us supporting Ukraine and why Russia can't be allowed to take them over, or rather what will happen if/when Russia does.

soulcougher73 · Mar 1, 2025

Gee i wonder how he got in there.

Russian state-media reporter gains access, but is later removed from Trump-Zelenskiy meeting.

https://www.reuters.com/world/russian-state-media-reporter-gains-access-is-later-removed-trump-zelenskiy-2025-02-28/

Lanyap · Mar 1, 2025

It's clearly a quid pro quo between trump and Putin. Putin will get Ukraine and any other former soviet union countries while trump gets the Panama Canal, Greenland and Canada.

Lanyap · Mar 1, 2025

soulcougher73 said:
Gee i wonder how he got in there.

Russian state-media reporter gains access, but is later removed from Trump-Zelenskiy meeting.

https://www.reuters.com/world/russian-state-media-reporter-gains-access-is-later-removed-trump-zelenskiy-2025-02-28/

Oops, WH got caught. The way they are controlling press media access you know they did this on purpose.

zinfamous · Mar 1, 2025

the complete lack of balls from the GOP especially, and Congress in general would be shocking and alarming if the GOP hasn't already been signalling this for decades, with their mindless voters in lockstep with whatever their leaders tell them is correct.

There is simply no pre-Trump version of the United States where this president wouldn't be in prison already and on trial for sedition, and very likely executed, as the Constitution demands. It's just a fact of history and our so-called laws. The entirety of the GOP and their voters are wholly complicit in this shameless dismantling of the United States.

These very same voters that, to this day, gobble phantom loads of Reagan cum just thinking about him, seem completely oblivious to the fact that Trump has absolutely shamed them into accepting this Kremlin-friendly president.

Pohemi · Mar 1, 2025

eelw said:
How much lower can they go? Yes sir we’ll start digging more

They haven't just rented a backhoe...they built a factory to produce excavators.

Jaskalas · Mar 1, 2025

Full scale industrial war returned to Europe in 2022.
Trump cannot start what has already started.

But sure, American weakness and abandoning the "free world" will absolutely fan the flames and embolden enemies. But those enemies were already either arming for war or engaged in conflict.

Jaskalas · Mar 1, 2025

cytg111 said:
It is RUSSIA calling the shots now. I guess Europe is going into a land war with Russia & USA.

USA does not need boots on the ground to defeat Europe.
Just cut off and control the flow of energy that Europe needs to import.

Between Russia and the USA, that's enough to shutdown Europe's industry. Assuming Turkey is paid off to complete the blockade.

Oric · Mar 1, 2025

Oh no !

cytg111 · Mar 1, 2025

Jaskalas said:
USA does not need boots on the ground to defeat Europe.
Just cut off and control the flow of energy that Europe needs to import.

Between Russia and the USA, that's enough to shutdown Europe's industry. Assuming Turkey is paid off to complete the blockade.

Yea sure, if everyone gangs up on Europe it's a tough sell... But from your side you need to do it at a level and a pace that doesnt break out full blown civil war at home too, so there is that. I dont think the entirety of the US is ready for the Mobik Conversion Program just yet.

cytg111 · Mar 1, 2025

It's a morbid scenario, Ukraine is literally bleeding it's heart out for freedom, democracy for freedom from tyranny oppression and authoritarian rule.... all the same time The United States of America slided openly willingly and without a fight straight into it.

US Democracy headstone: Got tired of freedom. I guess.

UNCjigga · Mar 1, 2025

I haven’t formed my own opinion yet—as I have yet to watch the full 50 minute presser and not just the 10 minute debacle. I still can’t fathom what Trump/Vance hoped to gain out of this little spat—from all appearances it seems like it was a setup intended to give the Administration cover for A) abandoning Ukraine and pulling all funding/aid; B) forcing a regime change by casting Zelenskyy as an unstable partner; C) or both. My only problem with that—why the fuck would they insist on having press in the room? Because the way this was executed makes America look like the unstable partner—not Zelenskyy.

If Trump/Vance *really* wanted the minerals deal, they could’ve offered the barest of verbal assurances and wouldn’t have chased the Ukrainians out of the White House. It should’ve been a no-brainer to execute the minerals deal and pull a fast one on Zelenskyy afterwards (as everyone thought they might do). Then at least they get something?

But the Three Stooges way this all went down for the entire world to see—it makes it seem almost as if the minerals deal was a ruse this whole time. It really only makes sense if Moscow really is calling the shots. What was really accomplished? If I’m a former Soviet republic/Balkan/Baltic state, I’m more inclined to believe in Putin’s world view. Since the 90’s, he’s always warned these breakaway states that “Westernization” isn’t about freedom or democratic principles, but trading one group of oligarchs for another more dangerous group of ultra-capitalists who will plunder your resources. Better to stick with the devil you know, in other words.

Now Putin can forever point to Ukraine as an example. “Look how they used him [Zelenskyy]—forcing him to keep fighting with one hand tied behind his back while his people suffered—and for what? Just to be forced to hand over 50% of the wealth with no additional security! What a fool!” Trump and Vance essentially just strengthened Putin’s hand to rebuild Russia’s sphere of influence.

trenchfoot · Mar 1, 2025

Oric said:
Oh no !

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I think it's pretty cool that those rifles the Honor Guard is saluting Zelenskyy with looks to be the Garand, the standard rifle of the American foot soldier during WWII and the Korean War.

Pohemi · Mar 1, 2025

It was no more than performative FUD and a display to show Daddy Putin how in line they are.

cytg111 · Mar 1, 2025

Wonder how Trumps posture towards Russia might change if Putin had a heat attack tomorrow?

trenchfoot · Mar 1, 2025

NWRMidnight said:
Trump voters can't suppost something they don't understand. Most of them don't have the first clue the importance of us supporting Ukraine and why Russia can't be allowed to take them over, or rather what will happen if/when Russia does.

Yep, giving Trump a chance to get revenge on Biden and the libs for embarrassing and harassing him by holding him accountable for the crimes he committed is about all they wanted out of him. Anything else that Trump could take a whack at like our former ally Ukraine and our former NATO allies is just another thing that's of no consequence or importance to them. "Go Fuck Up Them Libs Trump!! OK, now back to diddling that ewe that's been teasing me all day."

Did Trump just start WW III?

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