Question Hyped for the 9070XT

terpsy · Mar 6, 2025

dlerious said:
Microcenter in north jersey has 1 Steel Legend in stock at MSRP

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1 Gigabyte Gaming OC at MSRP

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Fairly good stock at $730 and up. Check your local store if you live near one.

I was there at 9 am this morning (North Jersey Microcenter)

There were about 500-600 people in line in front of me at least.

It took about 70 minutes to finally be allowed into the store, and they had just sold out of the Sapphire 9070XT and were low stock on the other MSRP ($599) 90790XT's from Asus, ASRock, PowerColor, and XFX.

I was able to get an XFX for $599.

I was thinking I had to either ger a 9070 or just walk away as it did not sit well to spend more than $700 for a $599 card that should have really been $549 or so.

Word was they had over 700 - 800 Baseline 9070XT's and then some of the higher priced as well

jpiniero · Mar 6, 2025

^^^

How many of those do you think were headed straight to eBay?

GodisanAtheist · Mar 6, 2025

terpsy said:
I was there at 9 am this morning (North Jersey Microcenter)

There were about 500-600 people in line in front of me at least.

It took about 70 minutes to finally be allowed into the store, and they had just sold out of the Sapphire 9070XT and were low stock on the other MSRP ($599) 90790XT's from Asus, ASRock, PowerColor, and XFX.

I was able to get an XFX for $599.

I was thinking I had to either ger a 9070 or just walk away as it did not sit well to spend more than $700 for a $599 card that should have really been $549 or so.

Word was they had over 700 - 800 Baseline 9070XT's and then some of the higher priced as well

-I know people will still dump on AMD because that seems to be their dharma but honestly good on them for actually getting inventory out there.

They played this whole crap show of a launch about as well as could reasonably be expected of them.

If I showed up somewhere and there were 500 people in front of me waiting to buy the same thing... I would have said eff it and gone home, no way there will be enough stock for me to walk away with anything.

Schmide · Mar 6, 2025

jpiniero said:
^^^

How many of those do you think were headed straight to eBay?

~175 results for 9070 xt

marees · Mar 6, 2025

AMD says the $549 RX 9070 is real but doesn’t deny reports of possible bait and switch

‘It is inaccurate that $549/$599 MSRP is launch-only pricing,’ AMD tells The Verge.

We asked AMD:

Can you confirm or deny that the best prices on the best-priced cards are capped in this way?
Can you confirm or deny that only a fraction of the best-priced models of 9070 and 9070 XT will be sold at their announced MSRP?
Can you confirm or deny that AMD has okayed any board partners or retailers whatsoever to raise their prices beyond MSRP after selling through a certain quantity or certain number of shipments?

AMD would not confirm or deny. It did address the larger question of MSRP availability with this statement from chief gaming solutions architect (and gaming marketing boss) Frank Azor, though:

It is inaccurate that $549 / $599 MSRP is launch-only pricing. We expect cards to be available from multiple vendors at $549 / $599 (excluding region specific tariffs and / or taxes) based on the work we have done with our AIB partners, and more are coming. At the same time, the AIBs have different premium configurations at higher price points and those will also continue.

On X, Azor tweeted that AMD is working to replenish stock “in the coming days and weeks,” adding, “MSRP pricing (excluding region specific tariffs and/or taxes) will continue to be encouraged beyond today so don’t despair.”

https://www.theverge.com/news/625502/amd-rx-9070-xt-launch-pricing-msrp-possible-bait-switch

terpsy · Mar 6, 2025

GodisanAtheist said:
-I know people will still dump on AMD because that seems to be their dharma but honestly good on them for actually getting inventory out there.

They played this whole crap show of a launch about as well as could reasonably be expected of them.

If I showed up somewhere and there were 500 people in front of me waiting to buy the same thing... I would have said eff it and gone home, no way there will be enough stock for me to walk away with anything.

I honestly had thought about leaving, but it was circulating that there was 150-200 of each brand 9070XT, so I thought I would take the chance.

Honestly, getting a Reference 9070XT at MSRP felt like the best option in the current situation.

I would not want to spend that amount on the 5070 (if you could get it that cheap). And I had also read the rumors of the price rising on the 7090XT in the near future as well as the possibility of tariffs raising the cost as well.

If they were sold out, there was no way I was going to spend $750 or more on the 9070XT and would have hoped to get a 9070.

dlerious · Mar 6, 2025

jpiniero said:
^^^

How many of those do you think were headed straight to eBay?

Microcenter has a 1 per household limit along with in-person sale only. That should prevent someone from listing bulk cards on ebay. I'm not sure if Newegg, Amazon, Best Buy had limits.

dlerious · Mar 7, 2025

Reading some comments online that match what Terpsy was saying. Long lines at microcenter with people being able to buy cards. I saw 500 cards in Kansas, 700 in Michigan, 900 in Dallas. Doesn't seem like it was a paper launch.

carrotmania · Mar 7, 2025

AnandThenMan said:
AMD will never have a 24 GB version of this new generation, correct? If so buh bye AMD forever I need the RAM.

"Forever"
Calm down.
You only get 24GB >£/$1000. If you need RAM you aren't looking at mid range cards from any vendor. Stop with the hyperbole, it comes off as FUD.

terpsy · Mar 7, 2025

Honestly, if Intel Battlemage performance matched AMD or Nvidia in Linux, I would have opted for a B580 and saved even more money. I don't play at 4K, or turn all eye candy up to MAX. Nice graphics with fluid gameplay is what I aim for. While the card has Raytracing and FSR (AMD DLSS) those aren't options I think I would utilize heavily, as well as I didn't the DLSS and Raytracing when I had NVidia

Zor Prime · Mar 7, 2025

Picked up an ASRock 9070 XT Taichi on NewEgg yesterday. Shows up today.

jpiniero · Mar 7, 2025

Zor Prime said:
Picked up an ASRock 9070 XT Taichi on NewEgg yesterday. Shows up today.

NIS says the price would have been $729. That's a lot over MSRP.

Sunaiac · Mar 7, 2025

What's the MSRP of the Taïchi supposed to be ?

carrotmania · Mar 7, 2025

terpsy said:
Honestly, if Intel Battlemage performance matched AMD or Nvidia in Linux

Matched.... what? It does match old AMD/NV... at its price point. B580 is nowt special, it's just new. Intel has 25 years of gfx ip behind them, if it wasn't as "good" as it is, it would be a s%tshow. But while 9070 stock levels are predicated on years of "going up against NV" data; B580s pathetic numbers of cards are Intel struggling to do anything of note currently. And with CHIPS cancelled, there might not be an Intel in 3 years, let alone a C580 with ongoing driver support.

9050 and 5050 will crush B580 around the same price in a few months. FSR4 is better than XeSS in (relative) speed and quality; RDNA4 RT matches or beats Intel's standalone matrix cores in efficiency;

Again, this weird "humble brag" sounds like FUD.

Hulk · Mar 7, 2025

Here we go again. Sold out everywhere. The hunger for GPU's is quite extraordinary. Who said the desktop PC is dead?

blckgrffn · Mar 7, 2025

Yup, I totally underestimated how many people would “settle” for an AMD GPU and ended up over paying a bit on NewEgg for a Steel Legend 9070 and missing the MSRP 9070xt at Microcenter. Still showed up an hour after opening, waited and hour in line and then was able to get an MSRP 9070 Reaper.

They still had 100s of 9070 and 9070xts when I left - and over a dozen 5070 cards at $740 - but all but the 9070 xt models were at minimum $750 and most the 9070 were between $600 and $700. Steel Legend 9070 was same price as NewEgg so I guess that’s just what it was meant to be.

dlerious · Mar 7, 2025

Hulk said:
Here we go again. Sold out everywhere. The hunger for GPU's is quite extraordinary. Who said the desktop PC is dead?

The $549/$599 models sold out , but the higher end models can still be found at the Brooklyn, Flushing, Westbury, and Yonkers NY Microcenters as of 5 minutes ago. I didn't check every store, but Dallas is sold out.

maddie · Mar 7, 2025

Hulk said:
Here we go again. Sold out everywhere. The hunger for GPU's is quite extraordinary. Who said the desktop PC is dead?

Both used and new cards.

I've been wondering if I'm crazy in entertaining certain sensitive ideas that explain this. Where have these multi-million additional consumers appeared from suddenly? Disclaimer, I live on a southern Caribbean island and do not belong to any US or EU political camp.

I can't help but wonder if the recent international population flows are a factor here.

blckgrffn · Mar 7, 2025

maddie said:
Both used and new cards.

I've been wondering if I'm crazy in entertaining certain sensitive ideas that explain this. Where have these multi-million additional consumers appeared from suddenly? Disclaimer, I live on a southern Caribbean island and do not belong to any US or EU political camp.

I can't help but wonder if the recent international population flows are a factor here.

Meh, I'd say it was much more likely based on other factors that are well established.

AI being the focus of nvidia and AMD.

DIY being the last to eat on the supply food chain.

Massive levels of international supply chain uncertainty causing either over or under ordering of things, snarling up all sorts of JIT product creation.

Nvidia whiffing a launch seemingly out of nowhere. AMD hedging against the same launch.

PC gaming is a relatively cheap hobby, massively accessible (don't need a garage or anything, can do it out of your bedroom/living room/whatever space you have) and justify it as part of your life's necessary equipment, allows for massive escapism.

These are all factors that exist without wandering out into left field.

maddie · Mar 7, 2025

blckgrffn said:
PC gaming is a relatively cheap hobby

Only in the developed world. Try looking at hrs worked to purchase a system. You might be shocked.

blckgrffn · Mar 7, 2025

maddie said:
Only in the developed world. Try looking at hrs worked to purchase a system. You might be shocked.

I was only talking about the US market. I didn't understand what you were trying to insinuate, I thought you were referring to more people living in places that could consume all these cards due to some sort of immigration, and there are hundreds of millions of people who already do.

And in those places, PC gaming is absolutely amongst the cheapest hobbies available considering the amount of time that can be extracted from the investment.

I don't think every person on earth needs to be PC gaming in order to exhaust the current unstable market for these goods.

AnandThenMan · Mar 8, 2025

carrotmania said:
"Forever"
Calm down.
You only get 24GB >£/$1000. If you need RAM you aren't looking at mid range cards from any vendor. Stop with the hyperbole, it comes off as FUD.

Anything above 16GB is high end something AMD has said they are not doing anymore.

gdansk · Mar 8, 2025

AnandThenMan said:
Anything above 16GB is high end something AMD has said they are not doing anymore.

Forever? By the time they launch another architecture 24gb GDDR7 chips should be common.

GaiaHunter · Mar 8, 2025

There is not enough manufacturing capacity for high end chips.

Any gaming GPU Nvidia makes could have been an AI accelerator that they will sell for much more.

Any N44 AMD makes could have been 5 zen5 chiplets. 5 zen chiplets even for consumer market will make AMD much more money.

This was the first time I bought a graphics card on release day because I doubt that it will be better prices in a few months and I've been buying GPUs since the days of voodoo 2 and Riva tnts

Anyway ~3 hours until the 9070 XT steel legend shows up.

carrotmania · Mar 8, 2025

AnandThenMan said:
Anything above 16GB is high end something AMD has said they are not doing anymore.

You added more context to your post, and made it sound even more asinine. How's that 64MB "high end" GeForce1 treating you?

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