Discussion Nvidia Blackwell in Q1-2025

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If that's true, I'm guessing $450 for 5060 Ti and $350 for 5060. Maybe they even take a page from AMD's playbook and make the 5060 $400 just to get people to pay the extra $50 for the Ti.

I don't think AMD has Navi 44 coming out anytime soon so Nvidia can do whatever they want since there's little last generation inventory left at any market segment.
 

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If that's true, I'm guessing $450 for 5060 Ti and $350 for 5060. Maybe they even take a page from AMD's playbook and make the 5060 $400 just to get people to pay the extra $50 for the Ti.

I don't think AMD has Navi 44 coming out anytime soon so Nvidia can do whatever they want since there's little last generation inventory left at any market segment.

It's probably the same prices as the 40 Series. $499 for 16 GB, $399 for 8 GB and $299 for the 5060 (assuming it's the full GB207)

The 5050 (if it really exists) would be a cut down GB207 and probably $249.
 

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Mopetar

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It's probably the same prices as the 40 Series. $499 for 16 GB, $399 for 8 GB and $299 for the 5060 (assuming it's the full GB207)

The 5050 (if it really exists) would be a cut down GB207 and probably $249.

The 5070 at $550 (allegedly) makes a 5060 Ti at $500 a non-starter. GB206 had 4,608 cores for the full die, which is 75% of what you can get in a 5070.

The other issue is that even if the 5060 Ti is full die it will only have about 7% more cores over the 4060 Ti. I'm sure there will be a clock speed bump as well, but this not going to be a big upgrade over the 4060 Ti outside of having 16 GB (as opposed to 8 GB unless you wanted to pay $100 more) so that's why I think $450 at most.

A 5060 at $350 will at least look like a good upgrade over the 4060. Even if it's more heavily cut, it'll still have at least 33% more cores. I could see them trying to go for $400 if the yields are good for the same reason that AMD put the 9070 just $50 below the XT. The 8 GB of VRAM will kill it though, even at $350.

If they use GB207 for the 5060 the 60-series is truly dead and gone.
 

jpiniero

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The 5070 at $550 (allegedly) makes a 5060 Ti at $500 a non-starter.

That's the same (official MSRP) pricing after the 4070's price cut when the Super came out. And it's fine that the 16 GB model looks terrible in pricing, that's kind of the point.

Guess I'm assuming the perf gap between the 4060 Ti and 4070 NS and 5060 Ti and 5070 will be similar.
 

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free* on GoG. This is the best game to check RTX 50 performance, I hear it will show just how capable Blackwell really is

*not really but close enough

You got me, I checked on the site. Then it showed me $2.99 and that I already owned it. Now I'm wondering when/where I got it from.
 
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So seems 5050 is just 4060
Nice of them being "honest" about the name for once. The 4060 was just a 4050 Ti. An actual 4060 would've had 12GB RAM and it could've enjoyed my grubby hands all over it. Not touching the 8GB one though, at any price. It's a waste of everyone's time. Yes, everyone. The engineers, the fabs, the AIB partners, the customers. Heck, it's even a waste of the garbage company's time when trying to dispose of it once gamers throw it away.
 

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Nice of them being "honest" about the name for once. The 4060 was just a 4050 Ti. An actual 4060 would've had 12GB RAM and it could've enjoyed my grubby hands all over it. Not touching the 8GB one though, at any price. It's a waste of everyone's time. Yes, everyone. The engineers, the fabs, the AIB partners, the customers. Heck, it's even a waste of the garbage company's time when trying to dispose of it once gamers throw it away.
It's fine for people building cheaper PCs or for the first time. 8GB should be enough for the rest of the console generation for 1080pLow gaming.

8GB is also a nice boost for Laptop lovers as 4050 had 6GB and the 3050 4GB previously.

But of course Nvidia will price it to the moon and ruin any market positioning or goodwill this card will have.
 

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4060 was 300, Nv love minus 50$, so seems 250$
That was the price of the 3050 too, so it'd fit.
I'm not sure it'll hit 4060 levels though. The 4060 has 20% more shaders; the 4080 had 8.5% more than the 5070 Ti and even with the benefit of GDDR7 the Ti was basically a wash with the 4080.

It'd be nice to see $450 5060 Ti 16GB, $400 8GB (and low production of that), $250 5050 and then 5060 slotting in somewhere depending on how big the cut is.
5060 Ti 16GB at $400 just as a straight upgrade of the 4060 Ti 8GB would be amazing, but I don't think we're getting that lucky.
 

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That was the price of the 3050 too, so it'd fit.
I'm not sure it'll hit 4060 levels though. The 4060 has 20% more shaders; the 4080 had 8.5% more than the 5070 Ti and even with the benefit of GDDR7 the Ti was basically a wash with the 4080.

It'd be nice to see $450 5060 Ti 16GB, $400 8GB (and low production of that), $250 5050 and then 5060 slotting in somewhere depending on how big the cut is.
5060 Ti 16GB at $400 just as a straight upgrade of the 4060 Ti 8GB would be amazing, but I don't think we're getting that lucky.
24 SMs 4060 x 20 SMs 5050. Blackwell increased perf/SM (As saw with the 5070) + higher base and boost clocks should do the trick.

I think 100 - 90% of 4060 performance is feasible. RTX 3050 8GB was also ~90% of 2060.
 

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24 SMs 4060 x 20 SMs 5050. Blackwell increased perf/SM (As saw with the 5070) + higher base and boost clocks should do the trick.

I think 100 - 90% of 4060 performance is feasible. RTX 3050 8GB was also ~90% of 2060.

Sounds about right. A little less performance than 4060. If they could deliver it in volume for $250 or less, it would likely be a big seller.
 
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