Yeah, that sounds about right to me, maybe on the lower end of the range. Depends how far they push clocks. 5070 did really well to match 4070S despite the large disparity in shaders, but it also has 33% more membw. 5070 Ti vs 4080 the gains were smaller, so we'll see. The 5050 won't have much more membw than 4060 because they're both GDDR6, maybe a grade up if 20Gbps is cheap enough. I expect the 4060 to still be 5-10% faster.24 SMs 4060 x 20 SMs 5050. Blackwell increased perf/SM (As saw with the 5070) + higher base and boost clocks should do the trick.
I think 100 - 90% of 4060 performance is feasible. RTX 3050 8GB was also ~90% of 2060.
And here's the 4060, it gets the SM count increased to 30 from 24. Still 8 GB. ~4060 Ti 8 GB performance maybe.
Figure the MSRP will be higher than $299 then but who knows.
With GDDR7 a 96bit 12GB 5060 would be far superior to what it looks like they are going to sell.
Yeah, cutting the bus down would be a bad idea. You trade doing poorly on a couple games to a big drop in performance across the board.
What would probably be the best would be to only have a single 16GB model for the 5060Ti, and then drop to 8GB on the cut down 5060. It'll probably be ~4060 Ti performance and could probably use more VRAM, but it's not the end of the world if it's priced similarly to the 4060. I doubt we'll get that though.
An 8GB $300 part will not be well received by the market.
Forum dwellers engage in a lot of self projection about what the market will do, that ends up have zero correlation.
People said the same about the 4060 Ti 8GB at $400, and those sold like hotcakes.
It'd have 336GB/s with 28 GT/s GDDR7 vs the 272 that the 4060 gets, but it's still 75% of the bandwidth it would get with a 128bit bus. In scenarios where it's not limited by VRAM, hypothetical 12GB 96bit 5060 is going to be slower and more expensive to produce than hypothetical 8GB 128bit 5060 would be. You'd also presumably lose 25% of the L2 cache. How much of a difference would probably be game dependent, but it'll be there.Given it will be using GDDR7 the bandwidth is still a lot more than the 4060 and 4060Ti models despite a cut bus.
The other issue NV will have is that a 16GB 5060Ti is going to be faster in several RT scenarios than the 5070 is due to more VRAM.
3GB chips is the other option but it depends on supply and if that is sufficient for volume parts.
An 8GB $300 part will not be well received by the market. A 12GB part, even with a compromised bus, will.
You buy one and scalp one, then you got that 3050 6GB for PhysX money!A mighty fine purchase at that price, except for Blackwell owners coz it's gonna ruin their day
Yeah, my local Micro Center got a few MSI 5080 cards in yesterday. Retail scalped at $1549.99 each.New high end GPU cards are like rare earth minerals now, keep going up in price!
Might as well just buy a GPU off StockX or Ebay, you'll get it now and it's the same price you'll pay retail in two weeks anyway.Yeah, my local Micro Center got a few MSI 5080 cards in yesterday. Retail scalped at $1549.99 each.
Will be there RTX 5060 same version?
8GB should be enough . . .
There's no bad products. Only bad pricingMan, what is it with ghosts around here insisting that 8 GB of VRAM is plenty?
They are all Eth miners, and got it stuck in the head that its enough to last the chain.Man, what is it with ghosts around here insisting that 8 GB of VRAM is plenty?
There's no bad products. Only bad pricing
8GB RTX 5050 at <$199 would be a worthwhile product for budget new builds. Anything above it is a scam.
8GB also helps budget gaming laptops to have a bit of headroom throughout the generation as RTX 3050 and 4050 only had 4/6GB.
8GB... almost any game now can eat though that.
AAA title... forget it... your pushing into territory which even 12GB cards show a disadvantage over the 16GB.
That's the thing. You get ugly textures (that ruin your experience) because you run out of VRAM. Very annoying when pure GPU power wouldn't be an issue.There's always turning the settings down...
Won't happen, ever*the reintroduction of HBM
It'd have 336GB/s with 28 GT/s GDDR7 vs the 272 that the 4060 gets, but it's still 75% of the bandwidth it would get with a 128bit bus. In scenarios where it's not limited by VRAM, hypothetical 12GB 96bit 5060 is going to be slower and more expensive to produce than hypothetical 8GB 128bit 5060 would be. You'd also presumably lose 25% of the L2 cache. How much of a difference would probably be game dependent, but it'll be there.
That's more on MSI I think because the barebones'prices are more or less aligned with the previous generation's launch prices. Same for an ASUS laptop with 5080 in preorder on Amazon.Blackwell laptops are absolute daylight robbery...
MSI is doing promos in various countries, many different laptop codenames, except slim model all other are similar the only main change is GPU...
approximate prices advertised with "great preorder discount" 😂
5070ti laptops: $3500 - $4000
5080 laptops: $5000 - $5500
5090 laptops: $6000 - $8000++++
😂😂😂
LMAO our defender of 8GB himself, psolord, is in the comments pimping the 5050. 🤣