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brianmanahan

Lifer
Sep 2, 2006
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Im guessing you all have forgotten the late 2000 to 2002 stock market. After the internet bubble crashed, the Nasdaq was flat for those years with no real progress.

We also had 911 during that period that did not help.

Pepperidge Farm remembers and so do I.

good times. i was certain i wasn't going to be able to get a job when i graduated from college, so i did a masters degree afterwards. only to finish that right before the 08-09 crash.
 

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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There is a lovely thread on Reddit..


Yep, I’m down around 120k woo! I told my wife I don’t want any Trump voters in my house. She said I’m crazy, I said they owe me shitload of money.

I lost a fuckton during his first admin. Lost more this time. Money into the ether, destroyed economic value. This guy fucking SUCKS.

I have a feeling in the next 4 years China will invade Taiwan and we are going to see an absolute blood bath in the global economy.

Hoping that we get get some chip foundries set up in the states before that happens. We either get dragged into a war to protect Taiwan’s sovereignty (for their chips) or we build our own foundries and stay out of it.

 
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njdevilsfan87

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This isn't that bad so far. We've only erased like what? 9 months of gains? Things will get interesting when if we drop down to ~2021 market levels - even if just near their peaks.
 

GodisanAtheist

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good times. i was certain i wasn't going to be able to get a job when i graduated from college, so i did a masters degree afterwards. only to finish that right before the 08-09 crash.

-Undergrad in '08.

Loved all the "Get in a suit and hit the pavement and hand in your resume, people love that go getter stuff" only to walk in anywhere and immediately be told "not hiring" and "apply online, I'll just throw your resume in the trash".

Loved it .

Finally just lied and made up a bunch of shit on my resume and asked my friend's parents to be my references (At made up jobs on my resume) and landed a job... At Microcenter...
 
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FelixDeCat

Lifer
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Trump explains why the tariffs are necessary, government jobs are not income producing jobs and should be eliminated in favor of factory jobs generating revenue, and the tariffs are incentive to re-open factories in America:

 
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FelixDeCat

Lifer
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This isn't that bad so far. We've only erased like what? 9 months of gains? Things will get interesting when if we drop down to ~2021 market levels - even if just near their peaks.

We have had nothing but incredible growth for over 100 years with a few hiccups here and there.


Just the last two years were are up 50%!!




100 YEAR S&P Stock Market Chart



Looking at the 100 year chart, we have far more "blue bars" then "red bars". So long as your job is secure, you want red bars for a year or more to accumulate cheap stocks in the S&P.

The average is heavily skewed towards GROWTH.

 
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Trump explains why the tariffs are necessary, government jobs are not income producing jobs and should be eliminated in favor of factory jobs generating revenue, and the tariffs are incentive to re-open factories in America:

Trump is an idiot. Government funding and jobs enable people to make more money in other areas, by creating stable economic environments to work in, protecting intellectual property, funding research that feeds into commercial products, and running regulatory agencies (which are again helping to make that economic environment work for business).

Overnight tariffs are also not an incentive. It takes time to build factories, retrain workers for long lost industries, and so on.
 
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IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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Trump is a real estate guy. He has no concept of productivity, only rent seeking. Feudalism is the system he understands but feudal rent seeking is economic stagnation and poverty for all but a few.
 

IEC

Elite Member
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Jun 10, 2004
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Trump explains why the tariffs are necessary, government jobs are not income producing jobs and should be eliminated in favor of factory jobs generating revenue, and the tariffs are incentive to re-open factories in America:

Sorry, but at this point I have to assume the administration is trying to engineer a recession and devalue the USD as part of their grand "plan" to reset everything - which means MORE PAIN AHEAD

Backstabbing all our previous allies is also probably calculated Realpolitikâ„¢ to force Europe to remove their dependence on us for defense so Mango Musso can focus on "CHYNA" instead of worrying about both Indo-Pacific and European wars.

Or... he's a moron.

I like simple explanations, and will position my portfolio accordingly.
 

repoman0

Diamond Member
Jun 17, 2010
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Bye bye inflation reading market bump. Turns out the hard part is to lower it without crashing the economy. I was going to use today to shift more money overseas if that +1.6% from this morning held.
 

jpiniero

Lifer
Oct 1, 2010
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Bye bye inflation reading market bump. Turns out the hard part is to lower it without crashing the economy. I was going to use today to shift more money overseas if that +1.6% from this morning held.

See I don't think going into Europe Stocks is the way to go. It's not like their economy is going to benefit even in the short term. Ukraine falling isn't exactly going to help.

What's happening now is not completely necessary at all.

It is if you want to end WFH. As you and others in this thread have quite made clear, if it wasn't obvious.
 
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It is if you want to end WFH. As you and others in this thread have quite made clear, if it wasn't obvious.
Yes, voluntary rake stepping for a purpose that is not needed at all. There is nothing wrong with remote working. I don't know why you have such a bug up your butt about it. Apparently, you just like stepping on rakes.
 
Dec 10, 2005
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That's just your opinion, not the one of the people calling the shots.
And that's just your opinion about a bunch of bean counters opinions.

RTO is more about constructive firings and forced quitting in place of layoffs (where they'd have to pay out unemployment) more than anything else. Productivity hasn't been down.
 
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My wife just got director of engineering at the $40B company she works for. Crazy that she managed that while playing COD at home during working hours the past five years.
I've managed and worked on accounts doing millions of dollars of business, all while my team and clients are remote from one another and many (includinf myself) are WFH. If my client is in NJ, my boss is in CA, another client is in MA or the UK, how does it help me to go to an office in CT? It's fucking stupidity.
 
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JTsyo

Lifer
Nov 18, 2007
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Trump explains why the tariffs are necessary, government jobs are not income producing jobs and should be eliminated in favor of factory jobs generating revenue, and the tariffs are incentive to re-open factories in America:

Who the hell is going to make any large capital expenditures while Trump is going back and forth about tariffs? You can't make large long time frame decisions in this environment. Also no point in expanding production if there's the real threat of a recession. People are getting defensive just due to the possibility so it might become a self-fulfilling prophecy as spending drops.
 
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Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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My wife just got director of engineering at the $40B company she works for. Crazy that she managed that while playing COD at home during working hours the past five years.

I'm super impressed by her K/D ratios that she doesn't spend time rage hunting for revenge!
 
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