Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

kage69 · Mar 12, 2025

All signs point to the Russians not being interested in a cease fire. "What is there to talk about?" is the common refrain I'm hearing.

Fine with me. Keep your soldiers miserable, prone to suicide and desertion. Let Putin continue to bleed the country to prop up his shitty military. Zelenskyy's cooperation was more for the US anyway. American SIGINT is nothing to sneeze at, really something you should utilize if you can. If that access requires some praise, compliments or cooperation with hopeless invitations.... ok. Whatever.

Jaskalas · Mar 12, 2025

RnR_au said:
But I don't think Putin will help him. Putin has just done a victory lap in Kursk dressed in battle fatigues a mere day after Zelenskyy agreed to the 30 day ceasefire. He is not ready for peace. He thinks Ukraine is on the ropes and he wants all of the Donbas at least.

If Ukraine's strength holds up, Russia MAY complete its land grab of the Donbas at around 1.4 million casualties.

RnR_au · Mar 12, 2025

kage69 said:
Zelenskyy's cooperation was more for the US anyway. American SIGINT is nothing to sneeze at, really something you should utilize if you can. If that access requires some praise, compliments or cooperation with hopeless invitations.... ok. Whatever.

This was an easy thing for Zelenskyy to agree to. Gear is already flowing again from the distribution points in Poland and he didn't have to sign any land away, nor his Presidency.

kage69 · Mar 12, 2025

Yeah, love how upwards of 80% think he is The Man for the job. That's stfu territory right there. The narrative of 'he's not legitimate' is deader than Prigozhin at this point.

I'm actually happy and grinning ear to ear when I consider how emasculating it must be for Trump, given he's a toddler who craves both attention and approval. Zelenskyy had every, single, person in their Parliament stand behind him and their Constitution, cordially extend middle fingers both East and West. This is the man who had the termerity, the fucking gall to not trade Hunter Biden fabrications for $400million in aid. Got poor Donnie his first impeachment after all. Many a diaper has paid the price for Zelenskyy's image lately I bet.

A real people's president plus a successful war president, a 21st century Winston Churchill to Trump's Neville Chamberlain/Harvey Weinstein hybrid. Zelenskyy has that cred Trump will never obtain, and let's face it, not being an asshole and coward goes far. Trump is like Putin, prone to bunkers. Zelenskyy just wants ammo.

you2 · Mar 13, 2025

Surprise Surprise - read the whole thing - basically they want peace but Ukraine becoming submissive to Russia and they want Nato out of Germany - lets see how Trump responds:

Russia says it does not want a temporary ceasefire in Ukraine

Putin’s foreign policy adviser says Moscow wants long-term settlement taking its interests into account

www.ft.com

kage69 · Mar 13, 2025

This should be where 'combat evaluation' of PrsM starts. And waiter, moar JDAM!

kage69 · Mar 13, 2025

Reminder: the other vessel was a US tanker carrying 220k barrels of JP-8

K1052 · Mar 13, 2025

kage69 said:
This should be where 'combat evaluation' of PrsM starts. And waiter, moar JDAM!

something with a little more spice would be nice

kage69 · Mar 13, 2025

Yeah definitely Tomahawk time. You guys want to wrap this up or what? Ukraine deserves a whole buffet of tasty treats to dispense.

K1052 · Mar 13, 2025

kage69 said:
Yeah definitely Tomahawk time. You guys want to wrap this up or what? Ukraine deserves a whole buffet of tasty treats to dispense.

TLAM-D and Russian oil/gas energy facilities are a match made in heaven.

kage69 · Mar 13, 2025

Speaking of peas and carrots, looks like Sweden just gave Ukraine another 18 Archers along with five ARTHUR artillery hunting radar stations.

Some zesty treats there.

Roger Wilco · Mar 13, 2025

GodisanAtheist said:
Guys, you're doing it again. Wait for Trump to get his new marching orders from Putin and for the Rug pull.

Until Ukraine either kicks Russia out or becomes a permanent part of NATO/NATO-Next it's all just words and gestures.

I also think it’s important to not fall into the trap of thinking Trump’s actions can be predicted.

The few working neurons he still possesses are frantically forming a new, increasingly incompetent version of Dr. Evil every other minute.

K1052 · Mar 13, 2025

Putin says Russian conditions for a ceasefire are that Ukraine does not train troops, mobilize troops, or receive weapons during the ceasefire. There is about 0% chance Kyiv agrees to this and ditto for Europe.

trenchfoot · Mar 13, 2025

What with all of the uncertainty going on with the ceasefire talks and how Putin is apparently being coy with Trump in this regard, it does seem that Trump and Putin are actually attacking the morale of the AFU troops, something that the AFU has had a significant advantage over the Russians. I really do hope the AFU can sustain this critical advantage given how Trump and Putin are united in their efforts to disable Ukraine's ability to fight Putin's takeover attempt.

fskimospy · Mar 13, 2025

@Young Grasshopper as a lover of peace you must be absolutely enraged at Russia’s rejection of a cease fire.

Can you confirm that you think Putin is bad for doing this?

K1052 · Mar 13, 2025

Trump comments today indicate that the return of the ZNPP to Ukrainian control is a major requirement for their government in any agreement.

Previously they had discussed this with Russia as a trade for continued gas transit using the Yamal pipeline.

Jaskalas · Mar 13, 2025

K1052 said:
Trump comments today indicate that the return of the ZNPP to Ukrainian control is a major requirement for their government in any agreement.

Previously they had discussed this with Russia as a trade for continued gas transit using the Yamal pipeline.

There is absolutely ZERO chance Russia gives up the land bridge to Crimea.
Therefore... if ZNPP is returned, it would be a completely indefensible location should (when) hostilities resume.
A token gesture at best.

I like the idea of holding pipelines hostage for its return.
But something tells me the Russians made a complete mess out of ZNPP and the pipelines are far more valuable at this point.
Unfair trade?

K1052 · Mar 13, 2025

Jaskalas said:
There is absolutely ZERO chance Russia gives up the land bridge to Crimea.
Therefore... if ZNPP is returned, it would be a completely indefensible location should (when) hostilities resume.
A token gesture at best.

I like the idea of holding pipelines hostage for its return.
But something tells me the Russians made a complete mess out of ZNPP and the pipelines are far more valuable at this point.
Unfair trade?

I think you probably need some kind of defensive land buffer around the plant but firing missiles or rocket artillery at a running nuclear power station would invite retaliation in kind, which the Ukrainians are increasingly capable of.

Whatever repairs are required probably take less time than just waiting for new plants to get built. Ukraine could also use the money from energy exports it would enable. Ukrainians also liable to demand its value in reparations anyway if the Russians refuse to return it.

you2 · Mar 13, 2025

A very good read from an American who actually faught in ukraine for 3 years:

JD Vance’s cousin says Trump and his VP can’t bully Putin - so turned on Zelensky

Nate Vance, who spent summers as a child with JD Vance, is a US veteran who volunteers to fight alongside Ukrainian soldiers on the frontline with Russia. He tells World Affairs Editor Sam Kiley in Kyiv that his first cousin is only serving Putin by abandoning Zelensky

www.independent.co.uk

GodisanAtheist · Mar 13, 2025

you2 said:
A very good read from an American who actually faught in ukraine for 3 years:

JD Vance’s cousin says Trump and his VP can’t bully Putin - so turned on Zelensky

Nate Vance, who spent summers as a child with JD Vance, is a US veteran who volunteers to fight alongside Ukrainian soldiers on the frontline with Russia. He tells World Affairs Editor Sam Kiley in Kyiv that his first cousin is only serving Putin by abandoning Zelensky

www.independent.co.uk

- If that is even remotely real... man the DNA of JD's unrelated aunt/uncle is doing some heavy lifting for sure...

RnR_au · Mar 13, 2025

More has been reclaimed...

K1052 · Mar 13, 2025

Portugal eliminated the F-35 from consideration due to unpredictable US foreign policy.

https://theaviationist.com/2025/03/13/portugal-f-35-plans/

The odds LM ever sells another one of these on the continent seem to be near zero..

fskimospy · Mar 13, 2025

K1052 said:
Portugal eliminated the F-35 from consideration due to unpredictable US foreign policy.

https://theaviationist.com/2025/03/13/portugal-f-35-plans/

The odds LM ever sells another one of these on the continent seem to be near zero..

Every US partner is now looking at Ukraine and thinking they could be next.

fskimospy · Mar 13, 2025

RnR_au said:
More has been reclaimed...

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That looks very dangerous for the Russians to the west there.

brycejones · Mar 13, 2025

K1052 said:
Portugal eliminated the F-35 from consideration due to unpredictable US foreign policy.

https://theaviationist.com/2025/03/13/portugal-f-35-plans/

The odds LM ever sells another one of these on the continent seem to be near zero..

So much winning!

Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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