Primaries are the one thing I will guaranteed vote in. A candidate espousing the policy that Bernie and Tim Walz are arguing for gets my vote, anyone who wants to follow the Hakeem Jeffries wing I will fucking abandon in the general.
Primaries are the one thing I will guaranteed vote in. A candidate espousing the policy that Bernie and Tim Walz are arguing for gets my vote, anyone who wants to follow the Hakeem Jeffries wing I will fucking abandon in the general.Oh boy. If the Democrats vote at all to pass any bill that doesn't have major fucking concessions to Democratic concerns they should all be fucking fired. I don't even care about voting in the primaries anymore I cannot be a Democrat if they do anything of the sort.
There definitely is one downside to an extended shutdown that isn't widely discussed: providing the administration with genuine legal reasons for issuing RIFs. But the Senate shouldn't let the House just jam them with a big piece of shit CR.House Dem leadership kept everybody in line except for Golden (not a huge shock). Also delivered every single D vote against the R budget resolution. Jeffries is much better at counting votes than he is at the performative politics end of his job where he manages to constantly enrage the party's base by yapping ineffectually.
As for the Senate...we'll see.
So far they have not really cared that much about legal reasons for what they are doing anyhow. We have been told that the goal here is to get rid of federal employees now and then delay the courts for a few years with the expectation that most will have moved on by then.There definitely is one downside to an extended shutdown that isn't widely discussed: providing the administration with genuine legal reasons for issuing RIFs. But the Senate shouldn't let the House just jam them with a big piece of shit CR.
There definitely is one downside to an extended shutdown that isn't widely discussed: providing the administration with genuine legal reasons for issuing RIFs. But the Senate shouldn't let the House just jam them with a big piece of shit CR.
So far they have not really cared that much about legal reasons for what they are doing anyhow. We have been told that the goal here is to get rid of federal employees now and then delay the courts for a few years with the expectation that most will have moved on by then.
For sure. It's really a lose lose. But I think the right approach is to exert congressional authority over the budget (eg, shutdown with no money until it is being spent per the law).They are shuttering whole agencies, laying off thousands, and already plan to RIF hundreds of thousands more. The layoffs and shutdown are already happening. Democrats in the Senate should not legitimize it by funding this lawless government.
For sure. It's really a lose lose. But I think the right approach is to exert congressional authority over the budget (eg, shutdown with no money until it is being spent per the law).
For sure.So far they have not really cared that much about legal reasons for what they are doing anyhow. We have been told that the goal here is to get rid of federal employees now and then delay the courts for a few years with the expectation that most will have moved on by then.
It definitely is lose/lose for the Dems. All they can do is shut down the government, and that hasn't gone well, even for the Reps when they have done or attempted it. I think it would go even worse for the Dems, considering the strength of the right wing media and social media.
No it's not just lose/loseIt definitely is lose/lose for the Dems. All they can do is shut down the government, and that hasn't gone well, even for the Reps when they have done or attempted it. I think it would go even worse for the Dems, considering the strength of the right wing media and social media.
No it's not just lose/lose
The Dems can make it a win if they fucking have a clear and concise message sent down from leadership and messaged with discipline across the board.
But Dem leadership is incompetent. As we have seen from many reports, of which many are in this thread.
Her and mayor Pete and senator Murphy.I would just send AOC out to explain it to the nation and tell everybody else except like Pritzker to muzzle it for now.
He's been on a roll lately.Lawrence is my spirit animal.
Every Democrat should be this firebrand, at minimum.
Lawrence on Trump's 'vile, antisemitic' attack on Schumer: Trump's mind is gone. It is shattered.
I am not familiar enough with the Senate protocol to know whether or not the Reps can effectively bypass the Filibuster. Either way though, I dont know if it really matters whether or not blaming a shutdown on the Dems is "bullshit". Trump got elected by making the electorate believe exactly that (BS), and I think the Dems will be blamed.I know the right wing media is screaming the narrative that this would be a Democratic Party caused shutdown but that is plain old bullshit. The Republicans are the majority party in the House and Senate and any shutdown is 100% on them. Once again, internal Republican Party politics are causing a shutdown. Thune can dispense with the filibuster whenever it is convenient so he only needs his party to pass the CR. If he was interested in gaining Democratic votes, he wouldn’t be pushing the bill he’s pushing.
We get it. You say it at least 10 times a day, 10 different ways, but it helps nothing. It's united we stand, divided we fall.The Dems are easy patsies because the leadership is inept and ineffective at creating cohesive messaging strategies. And the little messaging they do is mostly pathetic and useless.
They need to be strong and take on the media narrative. The media sucks mostly but they can change the narrative if they knew what they were doing and actually tried.
Only if you choose to blame them, without reason. The filibuster exists at the pleasure of the Majority Leader and can be disregarded. As feskimospy is fond of saying, just because the Republicans pretend their lies are truth, we don’t have to pretend to believe them.I am not familiar enough with the Senate protocol to know whether or not the Reps can effectively bypass the Filibuster. Either way though, I dont know if it really matters whether or not blaming a shutdown on the Dems is "bullshit". Trump got elected by making the electorate believe exactly that (BS), and I think the Dems will be blamed.