8GB VRAM not enough (and 10 / 12)

BFG10K · Jul 13, 2021

8GB

Dying Light 2, Battlefield 2042, Avatar Frontiers of Pandora, Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3, Starfield, Forza Horizon 5, Horizon Forbidden West, Alan Wake 2, The Last of Us, Tekken 8, FC 24, Detroit Become Human, Death Stranding, Alone in The Dark, Overwatch 2
3060 12GB higher 1% low than 4060 8GB https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIfz57wmywg
Cyberpunk 2077, Diablo 4, Hogwarts Legacy, Horizon Zero Dawn, Microsoft Flight Sim 2020, Witcher 3, Watch Dogs Legion skip to 4K + DLSS for each game https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPiaWWd0xGc
Ratchet & Clank, Plague Tale Requiem, Last Of Us, Jedi Survivor, Far Cry 6, Hogwarts Legacy, Forza Horizon 5, Cyberpunk 2077 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr3MckDxMfE&pp=ygUTMTZnYiB2cyA4Z2IgNDA2MCB0aQ==
Far Cry 6, Godfall, Hogwarts Legacy, Forza Horizon 5, Forspoken, Doom Eternal, Watchdogs Legion https://youtu.be/fJc--C01P90?t=268
Last Of Us, Resident Evil 4, Callisto Protocol, Plague Tale Requiem, Halo Infinite, Forspoken https://youtu.be/2_Y3E631ro8?t=429
Last Of Us, Hogwarts Legacy, Resident Evil 4, Forspoken, Plague Tale Requiem, Callisto Protocol https://youtu.be/Rh7kFgHe21k?t=288
Hogwarts Legacy, Last Of Us, Spider Man Remastered, Doom Eternal, Forza Horizon 5 https://youtu.be/R943CbDTq_s?t=1473
Horizon Forbidden West 4060 has issues @ 1080p + DLSS unless you switch off frame generation and reduce settings to high https://youtu.be/3AyKvI23VGw?t=233
Horizon Forbidden West 3070 requires reducing textures 2 notches https://youtu.be/xTwEGy6HHKo?t=351
Deathloop https://youtu.be/lu_XHyO-6zY?t=918
Ghost Recon Breakpoint https://youtu.be/iUGppQVpXzU?t=529
Resident Evil 2 https://youtu.be/Aa-gsgRjMII?t=796
Talos Principle 2 https://youtu.be/K6FATQAuEwI?t=337
Spider Man Remastered https://youtu.be/vRVR_plVSlc?t=1060
Witcher 3 https://youtu.be/vRVR_plVSlc?t=1240

Horizon Forbidden West 3060 is faster than the 2080 Super despite the former usually competing with the 2070. Also 3060 has a better 1% low than 4060 and 4060Ti 8GB.

Resident Evil Village 3060TI/3070 tanks at 4K and is slower than the 3060/6700XT when ray tracing:

Company Of Heroes 3060 has a higher minimum than the 3070TI:

10GB / 12GB

Plague Tale Requiem 3080 10GB tanks if you enable ray tracing, would be fast enough if it had more VRAM because if you stop moving, the framerate stabilizes to >60FPS https://youtu.be/7zjrMww3fAc?t=496
Hogwarts Legacy 4K + RT, 4060Ti 16GB is faster than 4070 12GB https://youtu.be/X-h_R488Mq8?t=191

Reasons why still shipping 8GB since 2014 isn't NV's fault.

It's the player's fault.
It's the reviewer's fault.
It's the developer's fault.
It's AMD's fault.
It's the game's fault.
It's the driver's fault.
It's a system configuration issue.
Wrong settings were tested.
Wrong area was tested.
Wrong games were tested.
4K is irrelevant.
Texture quality is irrelevant as long as it matches a console's.
Detail levels are irrelevant as long as they match a console's.
There's no reason a game should use more than 8GB, because a random forum user said so.
It's completely acceptable for the more expensive 3070/3070TI/3080 to turn down settings while the cheaper 3060/6700XT has no issue.
It's an anomaly.
It's a console port.
It's a conspiracy against NV.
8GB cards aren't meant for 4K / 1440p / 1080p / 720p gaming.
It's completely acceptable to disable ray tracing on NV while AMD has no issue.
Polls, hardware market share, and game title count are evidence 8GB is enough, but are totally ignored when they don't suit the ray tracing agenda.

According to some people here, 8GB is neeeevaaaaah NV's fault and objective evidence "doesn't count" because of reasons(tm). If you have others please let me know and I'll add them to the list. Cheers!

poke01 · Mar 8, 2025

igor_kavinski said:
96GB should last quite a while, though at $6000 or more, may not be a steal.

What else is there? Mac studio at 96GB for $4000 but its got a much much weaker GPU.

These 96GB 4090s will be more hard to find than any GPU.

poke01 · Mar 8, 2025

GTA V: Enhanced looks great. But look at the VRAM used at max settings at 1440p. Its 8.80GB used.
Whatever 8GB cards NV or AMD release this year, those cards cannot play this game at maxed out settings.

igor_kavinski · Mar 8, 2025

poke01 said:
These 96GB 4090s will be more hard to find than any GPU.

Except in Chinese warehouses.

igor_kavinski · Mar 8, 2025

poke01 said:
GTA V: Enhanced looks great. But look at the VRAM used at max settings at 1440p.

FSR4 to the rescue!

Input resolution: 360p

Ranulf · Mar 9, 2025

Meh, from what I've read on Steam, the endhanced gta5 is a mess even if you're lucky and they let you convert your account/character to the new version. I'm not going near it for at least another few weeks till they work out any bugs if ever, since its Rockstar. I also don't want to have two versions of the game installed which seems the prudent thing at the moment.

Given that my old 4790k and 2060S can run gta5 original at 60fps locked without breaking a sweat, that screenshot doesn't do much for me. Glossy paint on the suv looks the same and nicer puddles is a big whoop dee doo.

DAPUNISHER · Mar 9, 2025

GTA 5 Enhanced is running silky smooth an issue free on my 7800X3D+7900XTX. It looks a lot better than the OG, and FSR native AA and DLAA support are nice additions. It is a significantly smaller install at under 100GB. The old one was a bloated mess. I am doing a playthrough now.

Ranulf · Mar 9, 2025

The old one used to be 80GB in 2015, give it a couple of years and it will hit 100GB easy.

DAPUNISHER · Mar 9, 2025

Ranulf said:
The old one used to be 80GB in 2015, give it a couple of years and it will hit 100GB easy.

And? That's a problem for future us. For now it's about 30GB less than the OG was when I nuked it. In addition I get way faster load times, ray tracing, better AA, and a better looking game overall.

igor_kavinski · Mar 9, 2025

DAPUNISHER said:
In addition I get way faster load times, ray tracing, better AA, and a better looking game overall.

Looks like it's a poster child for "The way it's meant to be remastered"

GodisanAtheist · Mar 9, 2025

igor_kavinski said:
Looks like it's a poster child for "The way it's meant to be remastered"

-NGL there are a lot of older games out there that really just need their lighting model updated to look like they'd been released in the last couple years.

If it can be done without outrageous overhead and shutting out a ton of the market, I say let them do it.

poke01 · Mar 9, 2025

it looks so good. Your guesses on VRAM usage?

I think 10GB at 1440p maxed out

SolidQ · Mar 9, 2025

poke01 said:
it looks so good. Your guesses on VRAM usage?

we will see in late 2026

biostud · Mar 12, 2025

A bit off-topic but is nVidia still the go-to, if you want to stream your gaming sessions?

We're in entry level land so 4060(ti) 8GB or 7700XT 12GB, hopefully I can wait until the 5060(ti) 8GB launches or if AMD is ok RX 9060.

DAPUNISHER · Mar 12, 2025

biostud said:
A bit off-topic but is nVidia still the go-to, if you want to stream your gaming sessions?

We're in entry level land so 4060(ti) 8GB or 7700XT 12GB, hopefully I can wait until the 5060(ti) 8GB launches or if AMD is ok RX 9060.

Toasty shills tested these 2

AV1 will make the differences in quality even less notable. The extra VRAM and performance make the 7700XT a better value here in the U.S.

biostud · Mar 12, 2025

DAPUNISHER said:
Toasty shills tested these 2

AV1 will make the differences in quality even less notable. The extra VRAM and performance make the 7700XT a better value here in the U.S.

Thx, I've searched and searched and couldn't find anything newer than 6600 and 3060.

For pure gaming I would also go with the 7700XT because of the better value, but I was not sure about the streaming.

jpiniero · Mar 12, 2025

DAPUNISHER said:
The extra VRAM and performance make the 7700XT a better value here in the U.S.

7700 XT is mostly gone if you want new.

biostud · Mar 13, 2025

jpiniero said:
7700 XT is mostly gone if you want new.

Not here in Denmark, but I would prefer to wait for 9060(XT) or 5060(ti) to see what they offer.

igor_kavinski · Mar 13, 2025

https://videocardz.com/pixel/chinese-retailer-lists-geforce-rtx-5060-12gb-and-rtx-5060-ti-cards-with-initial-prices

5060 12GB <<< very promising if the price is good.

SolidQ · Mar 13, 2025

igor_kavinski said:
5060 12GB <<< very promising if the price is good.

if that 5060 12gb is real

SolidQ · Mar 13, 2025

People claiming they lose perfomance after patch, especially RTX 4xxx

igor_kavinski · Mar 13, 2025

SolidQ said:
People claiming they lose perfomance after patch, especially RTX 4xxx

Probably Nvidia engineers "helpfully" told them some "trick" to improve RTX 5000 series performance which when used, causes their driver to tank RTX 4000 performance artificially.

poke01 · Mar 13, 2025

igor_kavinski said:
Probably Nvidia engineers "helpfully" told them some "trick" to improve RTX 5000 series performance which when used, causes their driver to tank RTX 4000 performance artificially.

Or it’s way more likely that the devs stop stuffed up. Not everything is a conspiracy.

It looks like they optimised for RDNA4 and Blackwell. But gave no care to RDNA3 and Ada. PC gaming is annoying

Edit: that is a big drop, so these devs test anything anymore???

igor_kavinski · Mar 13, 2025

poke01 said:
Edit: that is a big drop, so these devs test anything anymore???

Maybe it's due to "experimental" settings? I don't know about that game and that site was mainly cited by our favorite settings expert anyway.

poke01 · Mar 13, 2025

igor_kavinski said:
Maybe it's due to "experimental" settings? I don't know about that game and that site was mainly cited by our favorite settings expert anyway.

It seems it’s that and a lot of other various issues.

https://www.reddit.com/r/kingdomcome/comments/1jakhgf/psa_for_anyone_experiencing_performance_drops

igor_kavinski · Mar 13, 2025

Turd of a game if you can't enjoy the highest settings even with a 4090.

8GB VRAM not enough (and 10 / 12)

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