So 5060ti ~ 4070, 5060 ~ 4060ti
He left us, but would be interesting what he's saying
The conclusion covers it well enough. Disregarding people suffering from main character syndrome; it is as Steve observed, a grim omen. Also, that moves like this are problematic for game preservation.GTX580 vs RTX5080
Who will win this epic fight?
| Card | Price | Price w/o VAT | Roughly equivalent price in USD |
|---|---|---|---|
| RTX 5070 | 4599 RMB | 4069 RMB | $562 |
| RTX 5060 Ti | 4299 RMB | 3804 RMB | $525 |
| RTX 5060 12GB | 3799 RMB | 3361 RMB | $464 |
Hmm, it seems that 5060 Ti might be 16GB and 5060 non-ti 12GB:
The prices are a sad joke though (if accurate). Even when factoring in that these are custom models
Card Price Price w/o VAT Roughly equivalent price in USD RTX 5070 4599 RMB 4069 RMB $562 RTX 5060 Ti 4299 RMB 3804 RMB $525 RTX 5060 12GB 3799 RMB 3361 RMB $464
Basically there was nothing in stock.It was basically only the 4090 and 4080 at this stage
Yeah. I don't remember it too clearly but it took until January before I could get a 4090.Basically there was nothing in stock.
That's my recollection too. I got my 4090 in December 2022 (over 2 months post launch) and I was extremely lucky to be in Micro Center when they put some on the shelves. Same thing this year when I got the next to last 5070 Ti, which didn't even last long enough to get the glass case closed back up before they were gone.Yeah. I don't remember it too clearly but it took until January before I could get a 4090.
Oct 12 for the 4090 and Nov 16 for the (terribly reviewed) 4080. So 4090, then 5 weeks later 4080, then almost 2 months later 4070 Ti.The 40 series launched a bit more slowly didn't it? It was only the 4090 and 4080 at this stage. And there was plenty of 3000 series in stock for the low end, as I recall.
So it might be possible, due to the 5070, that they shipped more total chips of the 5000 series by that time. But Nvidia conveniently ignores the inventory problem.
Probably fake and/or a typo. That would be interesting if 3 GB Chips were available enough to use for the 5060.
Yeah, I'll believe that when I see it. That we'd get 5070 12GB, 5060 Ti at 16 and 8 GB and then they'd use 3GB chips exclusively to make a 5060 12GB seems incredibly unlikely.
If anything they'd do 3GB on the Ti to give 5070 12GB, 5060 Ti 12GB, and 5060 8GB.
One of the retailers in India decided to announce a special offer in collaboration with Colorful, which will enable three people to buy RTX 5080 cards at MSRP. The lucky people, humorously called ‘winners,’ will be asked to pay the MSRP of Rs. 1,10,000.
We are not entirely sure why the retailer thought this would be a good idea to run such a promotion, nor why it is actually possible to sell the RTX 5080 at MSRP, but only for 3 units.
Bit rude given I'm neither a miner nor a bot, but alas
Yeah, I'll believe that when I see it. That we'd get 5070 12GB, 5060 Ti at 16 and 8 GB and then they'd use 3GB chips exclusively to make a 5060 12GB seems incredibly unlikely.
If anything they'd do 3GB on the Ti to give 5070 12GB, 5060 Ti 12GB, and 5060 8GB.
I should apologize as well as my original remark was not aimed at you in any way. I was making a joke at the expense of a different poster who had maintained for over a year that 8 GB ought to be enough for anyone and that all of the times it wasn't were just poorly optimized games, improper settings, or any number of other excuses.
Unless you happened to be following or posting in that thread, I wouldn't be surprised if the humor was entirely lost on you and the posts came off as slights against you.
If we're getting a 12 GB 5060 it's probably means that it's chips with a cut bus (92-bit) and a clamshell memory design. They probably won't use GDDR7 in that case either. As long as they use GDDR6X they shouldn't lose bandwidth relative to the 4060, but if it's not clocked as fast it could be a regression there.
I don't think this will be the case though as it creates a situation where the 5060 would beat an 8 GB 5060 Ti in some situations where it's VRAM limited. Maybe Nvidia doesn't care as the same happened with the 3060, but I doubt yields are bad enough for them to disable a memory controller intentionally to produce anywhere near the number of 5060s they would need.
One way to solve it would be 5060 96bit 12GB clamshell and 5060Ti 128bit 12GB 3GB chips.
That avoids the 12GB 5060 being faster in cases than the 8GB 5060Ti and it avoids the 16GB 5060Ti being faster than the 12GB 5070 in some cases.
There are plenty of games that the 5090 is too weak to hit 4k 120fps in:I don't understand why plain customers/gamers want desktop 5080/5090 at all, they're way too expensive and don't offer much over $600 cards lol
Just to play these 2-3 demanding games at 4K 120fps? There's literally no other reason
it's just fetishism for 35 year old manchilds with very fat wallets who don't know what to do with their money
All is well. I didn't follow that thread at all, so it indeed was missed on me.Unless you happened to be following or posting in that thread, I wouldn't be surprised if the humor was entirely lost on you and the posts came off as slights against you.
What does this graph even represent? other than 5 weeks? There are no #s of units for either graph. AMD is bad /facepalm.Multi trillion dollar company btw.
Well it is number of shipments for all cards after launch.What does this graph even represent? other than 5 weeks? There are no #s of units for either graph. AMD is bad /facepalm.
96 bitIf we're getting a 12 GB 5060 it's probably means that it's chips with a cut bus (92-bit) and a clamshell memory design.
They released 4070 with G6 due to lack of G6X months ago and you think Micron would resume G6X production for this one SKU?They probably won't use GDDR7 in that case either. As long as they use GDDR6X they shouldn't lose bandwidth relative to the 4060, but if it's not clocked as fast it could be a regression there.
Maybe they just won't release a 5060Ti-8GB?I don't think this will be the case though as it creates a situation where the 5060 would beat an 8 GB 5060 Ti in some situations where it's VRAM limited.
AMD playbook would be 5060 Ti at $400 just to get people to pay the extra $50 for the Ti.If that's true, I'm guessing $450 for 5060 Ti and $350 for 5060. Maybe they even take a page from AMD's playbook and make the 5060 $400 just to get people to pay the extra $50 for the Ti.