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MrSquished

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Here of the book tour dates of the fascist collaborators profitable adventure while the country Burns after he gave Trump the keys to do more damage. If you are in the area and have free time I'm sure they'll be protesters to join

 
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ondma

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Oh yeah. You're the guy who has a giant hard on for Tim. He lives rent free in your head, you are obsessed, and we caught you in multiple lies about him and you just kept on repeating them.

Wacko.
That is really rich, coming from you, who seems to waste more energy than anyone I have even known hating on politicians. Pot.Kettle.Black and all that.
 
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MrSquished

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That is really rich, coming from you, who seems to waste more energy than anyone I have even known hating on politicians. Pot.Kettle.Black and all that.
Just about everybody here called you out for lying about Tim and it's a weird personal thing with you because how you completely lied about shit that went down in Minnesota. I call out politicians for legitimate reasons.

Please tell me where I'm lying about politicians like you did. Good luck
 

ondma

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Just about everybody here called you out for lying about Tim and it's a weird personal thing with you because how you completely lied about shit that went down in Minnesota. I call out politicians for legitimate reasons.

Please tell me where I'm lying about politicians like you did. Good luck
Many in this forum disagree with me about Walz's policies. That is fine, it is their privilege, but I never lied about what Walz did and you know it. Or maybe you dont, maybe your perspective is just that distorted.
 

gothuevos

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Many in this forum disagree with me about Walz's policies. That is fine, it is their privilege, but I never lied about what Walz did and you know it. Or maybe you dont, maybe your perspective is just that distorted.

The problem is the Democrats just have too many ineffective leaders.

Walz? Cringe and a liar.
Jeffries? Boring
Bernie? Old man yelling at the clouds, branded as a socialist
Newsom? Sleazy
Murphy? Boring
Schumer? LOL

AOC and Mayor Pete are the best communicators they have, but obviously unelectable on a national level for a myriad of reasons.
 
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MrSquished

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Many in this forum disagree with me about Walz's policies. That is fine, it is their privilege, but I never lied about what Walz did and you know it. Or maybe you dont, maybe your perspective is just that distorted.
Yes you did. I specifically remembered people quoting some of your hate posts on Waltz with facts, linked, and you just refused to answer.

You have a giant hard-on for Waltz and have been called out on how it skews your vision so you simply spread lies.
 
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ch33zw1z

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The problem is the Democrats just have too many ineffective leaders.

Walz? Cringe and a liar.
Jeffries? Boring
Bernie? Old man yelling at the clouds, branded as a socialist
Newsom? Sleazy
Murphy? Boring
Schumer? LOL

AOC and Mayor Pete are the best communicators they have, but obviously unelectable on a national level for a myriad of reasons.

Myriad of reasons? One is a smart woman who isnt white, the other is a smart gay dude. I like the word myriad, but this is what it boils down to. Misogyny, bigotry, racism.
 

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Sorry about that. Charlie decided to stand on the keyboard. I wanted to say the book tour will be canceled due to riots.
 

MrSquished

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Not only is Chucky Schumer one of the worst leaders in D Senate history, who has kept the D party rudderless for years against the biggest threat the US has faced in over a century, Donald Trump, he is also just a shitty human being.
 
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MrSquished

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Stewart clips on Chucky, and he uses the word 'feckless'! Sent my heart a flutter.

 
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UNCjigga

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This is why Kamala Harris really lost

Cliff's:


- Dems failed on inflation and the economy.
- Dems have shifted from a working-class party to a college-educated party
- Republicans actually won 18-29 year-olds. This hasn't been discussed much at all, as the data to confirm this is just coming out. This is a huge, seismic shift against Democrats.
- Republicans are actually becoming a true "post-racial" party. Ideological moderates and conservatives were more unified across demographics in 2024--white/non-white, young/old, rich/poor, native/immigrant all leaned hard toward Trump (value-based messaging inside and outside the official campaign works, even though we all know he doesn't give a shit about values)
- Dems actually turned out more politically engaged voters (i.e., those watching/reading traditional news, even Fox) in 2024 vs. 2020. The problem is those voters were drowned out by larger groups of disengaged voters, immigrants, and new young voters who swung towards Trump's promise to fix inflation/economy--the central issue in 2024
- These disengaged voters are swinging right because they are engaging with "common sense"/trad values" content (see above) that isn't necessarily perceived as political speech--i.e. Joe Rogan, Russell Brand, Jordan Peterson, Dr. Phil, Tates, etc. Heavier consumers of TikTok also seem to be shifting Republican (that's how they're winning Gen Z/Alpha); TikTok also saw a TON of viral content on high prices
- If more registered voters had turned out--Trump would have won the popular vote by a WIDER margin. In other words, Dems focus on "get out the vote" in urban/black/younger districts isn't working. This was the biggest shocker for me--and makes me think we're fucked until we can figure out a new strategy
- Massive gender gap in 2024--which means Dem messaging on Roe v. Wade & access to contraceptives/abortion did work, but could also be part of what's alienating non-college-educated males.

What's really interesting is how voters of similar backgrounds are swinging differently based on whether they consume traditional media (TV, print/online) or new media (socials, Tok, Tube). Someone earlier pointed out that blue-collar voters vote differently based on whether or not they read a book in the past year. This implies that reading comprehension and the ability to separate fact from fiction could be playing an even bigger role than we'd like to believe. But that's a smaller issue than Democrats needing to find an identity and an ideological message that resonates. Data suggests a more populist take on economic inequality vs. their traditional "social justice" take. There's a chance that Trump's economic performance is enough to sink him (i.e. they can lose 2026 mid-terms all by themselves) but it likely won't be enough to help Dems in 2028.
 

MrSquished

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And there it is. Jeffries freckles as expected.

Time to call my senators and say zero money and zero support in a primary if they don't get rid of Chucky
 

pmv

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This is why Kamala Harris really lost

Cliff's:
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- Dems failed on inflation and the economy.
- Dems have shifted from a working-class party to a college-educated party
- Republicans actually won 18-29 year-olds. This hasn't been discussed much at all, as the data to confirm this is just coming out. This is a huge, seismic shift against Democrats.
- Republicans are actually becoming a true "post-racial" party. Ideological moderates and conservatives were more unified across demographics in 2024--white/non-white, young/old, rich/poor, native/immigrant all leaned hard toward Trump (value-based messaging inside and outside the official campaign works, even though we all know he doesn't give a shit about values)
- Dems actually turned out more politically engaged voters (i.e., those watching/reading traditional news, even Fox) in 2024 vs. 2020. The problem is those voters were drowned out by larger groups of disengaged voters, immigrants, and new young voters who swung towards Trump's promise to fix inflation/economy--the central issue in 2024
- These disengaged voters are swinging right because they are engaging with "common sense"/trad values" content (see above) that isn't necessarily perceived as political speech--i.e. Joe Rogan, Russell Brand, Jordan Peterson, Dr. Phil, Tates, etc. Heavier consumers of TikTok also seem to be shifting Republican (that's how they're winning Gen Z/Alpha); TikTok also saw a TON of viral content on high prices
- If more registered voters had turned out--Trump would have won the popular vote by a WIDER margin. In other words, Dems focus on "get out the vote" in urban/black/younger districts isn't working. This was the biggest shocker for me--and makes me think we're fucked until we can figure out a new strategy
- Massive gender gap in 2024--which means Dem messaging on Roe v. Wade & access to contraceptives/abortion did work, but could also be part of what's alienating non-college-educated males.

What's really interesting is how voters of similar backgrounds are swinging differently based on whether they consume traditional media (TV, print/online) or new media (socials, Tok, Tube). Someone earlier pointed out that blue-collar voters vote differently based on whether or not they read a book in the past year. This implies that reading comprehension and the ability to separate fact from fiction could be playing an even bigger role than we'd like to believe. But that's a smaller issue than Democrats needing to find an identity and an ideological message that resonates. Data suggests a more populist take on economic inequality vs. their traditional "social justice" take. There's a chance that Trump's economic performance is enough to sink him (i.e. they can lose 2026 mid-terms all by themselves) but it likely won't be enough to help Dems in 2028.


I wish they'd bring back the "informative" reaction emoji. So many times "like" isn't quite appropriate. Interesting data.

Just heard a podcast today where the (confusing, to me) message was the Democrats needed a "centrist" focus on economic issues and less emphasis on "woke stuff", yet the biggest exemplar of the success of this they cited was Bernie's succesful town hall meetings.

I would disagree both that "woke stuff" is "left" and certainly that "economic issues" are for "centrists".
 

pmv

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A lot of identity politics is intrinsically right-wing, because under capitalism an "identity" is something you purchase, as a luxury good (something particularly clear when it comes to 'neurodivergence', which explicitly requires having the money to privately buy the appropriate label from an accredited mental health professional, and for you to be a member of a powerful demographic that fits the established template for such an identity - usually a middle-class white person).

Identity politics is intrinsically linked to liberalism and 'equality of opportunity'/meritocracy, and largely is about maintaining heirachies and supporting systems of privilege. That's why it's so easy for the right to play that game as well, with all the 'white victimhood' stuff.

What is needed is more emphasis on equality of outcome, with no requirement to first purchase an appropriate 'identity'. The downside of that is that it's economically inefficient, and will make everyone a bit poorer, but that's the trade-off that has to be faced - either optimise economic growth or go for genuine equality,. The liberal attempt to evade that trade-off, by appeals to meritocracy and its cousin, identity politics, just isn't working.
 

MrSquished

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Call your Senators! Say zero donations and zero votes if they don't get rid of Chucky and start showing some actual leadership and coordinated strong messaging. That we are pissed off and need a real party - not one beholden just to seniority and rudderless leadership, our country is at stake.

Got Cory Booker's VM but spoke to a staff member at Andy Kim's office for a few minutes. GET ON THE PHONES!
 
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