Black Saturday: The Day Democracy Died

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The Day the United States Ceased to Be a Constitutional Democracy

The Moment Democracy Ceased to Function

Saturday, March 15, 2025, may have seemed unremarkable to most Americans. But in time, history will remember it as Black Saturday—the moment the United States ceased to function as a constitutional democracy.

For the first time in modern American history, a sitting president openly defied a direct federal court order—and nothing happened. No intervention. No enforcement. No consequences. A legal ruling was issued, and the White House simply ignored it.

The White House’s Decision: Power Over Law

Inside the White House, the decision was not about law—it was about power. A federal judge ruled against the administration. The debate inside Trump’s team was not whether the ruling was legal, but whether they could get away with ignoring it. They decided they could. And they were right.

This was not a clash between equal branches of government. It was the moment the judiciary was exposed as powerless. The courts do not have an army. They rely on compliance. But a court that cannot enforce its rulings is not a court—it is a suggestion box. And a presidency that can ignore the courts without consequence is no longer constrained by law—it is an untouchable executive.

Trump did not declare the end of judicial authority in a speech. He demonstrated it in practice. This is how democratic systems collapse—not with a single act, but with the normalization of defiance, the expectation that a ruling can simply be brushed aside.

How the System Failed to Stop Him

This moment did not happen in isolation. It happened because every prior attempt to hold Trump accountable has failed. The system tried—and at every turn, it proved incapable of stopping him.

Impeachment failed—twice. Criminal cases stalled. The Supreme Court refused to rule on his disqualification. Congress never moved to check his power. At each step, Trump tested the system—and the system flinched. He learned that laws are only as strong as the institutions willing to enforce them. And so, when faced with a court ruling, he did what he had been conditioned to do—he ignored it. And nothing happened.

The Supreme Court’s Role in Making the Presidency Untouchable

The judiciary was already weakened by years of erosion, but in 2024, the Supreme Court itself ensured that when this moment arrived, there would be no legal recourse left. In a landmark ruling, the Court expanded presidential immunity to such an extent that the office of the presidency is now functionally above the law. A president can commit crimes while in office and face no immediate accountability. And now, with Black Saturday, Trump has proven that he can ignore court rulings entirely without consequence.

This is not the separation of powers. It is the absorption of power into a single branch. The courts were supposed to be the last line of defense. Instead, they have been reduced to issuing rulings the executive can freely ignore.

The Role of Fox News in Conditioning the Public

Fox News did not issue the order, but it made this moment possible. In the aftermath of Trump’s defiance, Fox put the judge’s face on screen, not as part of neutral reporting, but as a deliberate act of intimidation. They did not need to explicitly declare that judicial rulings no longer mattered—they had already spent years training millions to believe it. Through relentless framing, they had conditioned their audience to see the courts as corrupt, as partisan, as obstacles to be overcome rather than institutions to be respected. Trump did not invent this strategy; he simply acted on it, carrying their rhetoric to its logical conclusion.

Why Americans Do Not See the Collapse Happening

This is why the phrase “you cannot see the forest for the trees” is so powerful in this moment. The trees are the individual events. Trump ignoring a court ruling. The Supreme Court making the presidency immune from criminal accountability. Congress failing to act repeatedly. The media normalizing the breakdown of democracy. The forest is the overarching reality. The U.S. government is no longer constrained by constitutional limits. The judiciary has been rendered powerless through precedent and selective enforcement. The executive branch now decides which laws apply to itself.

Most people living through history don’t realize they are inside a moment of collapse because each event, taken alone, does not seem like the end of democracy. The shock of one ruling being ignored does not feel catastrophic. The Supreme Court deciding a president is immune from prosecution feels like just another legal controversy. Congressional inaction feels like business as usual. The media’s treatment of this moment as just another chapter in the ongoing Trump saga makes it easy to assume the system will self-correct. But when viewed together, it becomes undeniable that the system has already failed.

The Moment Future Historians Will Point To

This is why people will look back on Black Saturday and wonder why it wasn’t immediately recognized as the breaking point. Because when you are inside the collapse, it feels like just another day. The weight of history is often invisible in the moment, its consequences spread out over years. But the truth is unavoidable: this is not just another legal dispute. It is not another chapter in partisan warfare. It is not an escalation of existing dysfunction. It is the end of constitutional government.

No democracy that has reached this stage has ever recovered without major structural change. This is not just an escalation of political crisis—it is the moment when constitutional rule is replaced with raw executive power.

Why This Is Worse Than Any Previous Crisis

This is not like Andrew Jackson defying the Supreme Court in 1832. When Jackson ignored Worcester v. Georgia, America was an evolving democracy. The role of the Supreme Court was still in flux, and the country’s institutions were not yet fully formed. Today, America is a collapsing democracy. The Supreme Court’s authority is settled law. The difference is that this time, the institutions were expected to work.

Andrew Jackson defied the Supreme Court in an era when executive power was not yet defined. Trump is erasing the limits on executive power in a system where they were already supposed to be settled. Jackson faced political opposition. Trump controls his party completely. In Jackson’s time, Congress still operated as a counterweight. Today, Congress is a rubber-stamp body that enables presidential overreach rather than restraining it.

The courts were supposed to be the final check. That check no longer exists.

What Comes After Democracy?

We have passed the event horizon. This is not about democracy in crisis anymore—it is about what comes after democracy. The system that once absorbed and corrected these shocks is no longer functioning.

The shock of January 6th did not lead to democratic renewal—it was a preview of what was coming. The rollback of reproductive rights in 2022 was not just about abortion—it was proof that legal protections could be stripped away at will. The Supreme Court’s expansion of presidential power in 2024 did not just change legal precedent—it ensured that the next time a president defied a court order, there would be no enforcement mechanism to stop it. That is where we are now. The end of the courts as a meaningful check on power.

There is no going back to the America of the 1990s. No return to a time when presidential power was constrained, when the judiciary had the final say, when law enforcement agencies functioned as independent institutions rather than tools of political power. That system is already gone.

Some will say this is alarmist. That democracy cannot end so quietly. But collapse does not feel like collapse when you are inside it. It feels like just another legal story. Just another Saturday in America. Until one day, you look up and realize there is nothing left to save.

The Final Verdict on Black Saturday

Black Saturday will be remembered as the day the constitutional system failed.
 
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Greenman

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Fuck off you treasonous Nazi shit stain. You disgrace your ancestors.
Another case of terminal butt hurt combined with hide behind the skirts syndrome. You don't have to go through this alone, help is available.
 

Muse

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Surely this is what the buyers of 400M guns have been waiting for. Their opportunity to defend democracy.
TBH, I can't remember seeing a gun in person (that wasn't a pellet or BB gun) other than (1) when in the boy scouts we shot 22 caliber rifles in target practice one day or (2) on the hip of a cop or (3) maybe on the wall of a sporting goods store or (4) in a movie or on TV. I've never been in a gun store and nobody has shown me a gun they possess. I hope that does not change. I don't want to see them.

 

IronWing

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Another case of terminal butt hurt combined with hide behind the skirts syndrome. You don't have to go through this alone, help is available.
You’re the one hiding in an ethnic enclave out of fear of encountering people who don’t look like you and you’re voting for Nazis. I’d say you’re afraid of your own shadow.
 
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DZero

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Yugoslavia's destiny is kicked out. The country is likely to fragment and the nukes dissapear
 

Greenman

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You’re the one hiding in an ethnic enclave out of fear of encountering people who don’t look like you and voting for Nazis. I’d say you’re afraid of your own shadow.
My ethnic enclave has a higher percentage of blacks than any other state in the union. Based on my neighbors, that seems accurate. The Hispanic population seems to be fairly large as well, we increased that number by two when we moved here.
Looking for a reason to justify your hate isn't going to work because the problem is you, not me. I'm happy with the people around me, they're good solid honest people and it's a pleasure to have them as neighbors.
 

Moonbeam

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Today I learned that opposing a Nazi dictatorship is just being butthurt. A Nazi told me this so it must be true.
The things Greenman says if believed, don't really line up with how you portray him? That doesn't bother you morally? What kind of person shits on others without regard to having interacted with them personally and have real data to base your accusations on? It doesn't speak highly of you in my opinion but you are far far away from being the only one here that does this. So, just saying. As long as we can have worthless opinions I can have mine.
 
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APU_Fusion

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Greenman has always been full Nazi. He just played the rule of law and both sides game until it was safe to sig heil in the open.

Greenman will hopefully one day understand the Nuremberg trials better but I doubt it.

For the OP I fully agree. Since King Trump won’t be impeached and convicted immediately, the experiment is over. The rule of law has become the rule of one. We again have a monarchy. I am glad I live on West Coast and hope when the country splinters, we can join Canada.
 

DZero

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Greenman has always been full Nazi. He just played the rule of law and both sides game until it was safe to sig heil in the open.

Greenman will hopefully one day understand the Nuremberg trials better but I doubt it.

For the OP I fully agree. Since King Trump won’t be impeached and convicted immediately, the experiment is over. The rule of law has become the rule of one. We again have a monarchy. I am glad I live on West Coast and hope when the country splinters, we can join Canada.
Don't be surprised if that kind of people betrays the US and becomes Russian's assets in order to grab power and money
 

Greenman

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When you have time you should take a stroll through your recent posting history where you used to talk about due process and the law like it was important. Do you suppose you've changed your mind now, or did you never really believe it to begin with?
I'm all about due process. From what I understand, the gentlemen in question were undocumented. Due process is deportation. Being members of a criminal gang (based on having that status tattooed on their faces) is just a second strike.
 

Fenixgoon

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I'm all about due process. From what I understand, the gentlemen in question were undocumented. Due process is deportation. Being members of a criminal gang (based on having that status tattooed on their faces) is just a second strike.
If we're on the topic of the arrest of Mahmoud Khalil, he's a legal permanent resident.

GTFOH.
 

brycejones

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I'm all about due process. From what I understand, the gentlemen in question were undocumented. Due process is deportation. Being members of a criminal gang (based on having that status tattooed on their faces) is just a second strike.
Translation greenman saw a picture of one with tattoos that his news outlet of choice told him were for sure gang tats. Therefore everyone the government deports this way just be in a gang and worthy of being sentenced to indefinite detention in an El Salvadoran prison where respect for human rights is questionable at best.
 
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fskimospy

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I'm all about due process. From what I understand, the gentlemen in question were undocumented. Due process is deportation. Being members of a criminal gang (based on having that status tattooed on their faces) is just a second strike.
It's darkly funny how when confronted with Trump clearly violating due process and court orders the vehement Constitutionalist just invents a new term for due process which is apparently whatever the president wants.
 

BoomerD

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It's darkly funny how when confronted with Trump clearly violating due process and court orders the vehement Constitutionalist just invents a new term for due process which is apparently whatever the president wants.
Is there any other way?

Remember, not only is our FelonKing above the law, (those only apply to the peons) HE gets to decide what the laws are…and whether he should follow them or not.
 
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