The Trump Tariffs thread

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misuspita

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It's funny to see America reliving Deutschland uber alles V2.0

You think all Germans were nazis? No.
 

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Lifer
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Now that I've calmed down from my past history PTSD of escaping pogroms.. I'll add something..

You might call me names like crazy but you really think that'll change my mind? Some insults??

People have willingly sacrificed their lives in order to not change their mind from Socrates to present day Ukraine or even here. Hell people have even killed others to not be forced to change their minds. Civil war comes to mind.

And I actually agree with you that it will be very messy but that is what will take a civil war and blood to wrestle your country back or we might as well leave.

Because no matter which crazy choice we think is better.. or even the ones dreaming of an electoral win.. the constant that remains is that a reset can't be done with arsonists around always trying to undo any kind of "progress" because it suits the other side.. and that's what we have here.. any progress will be destroyed by MAGA.


Thing is people here won't really wake up till there is a MAGA inspired pogrom next door. Right now people are still sleeping and they think MAGA is only targeting "bad actors" like that Palestinian kid that protested. It starts small but they eventually grow in size and come for more.

Bottom line is we can't live with MAGA or at the mercy of MAGA. We need a MAGA free country.


I think the fundamental flaw in this is the implication that "MAGAs" are intrinsically different types of people. Ultimately they are a product of their environment, i.e. of social and economic conditions. Start a new country and you'll probably eventually produce your own MAGAs.
 

RalphTheCow

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While the Jesusland thing is fun, it is too much like MTG's national divorce and not a sirious thing that can be done. The delusional are intermixed amongst us big time. I live in a Republican township and there is just no reason for it to be. Decent people HAVE to realize that turning everything over to the Maga cult has basically instantly turned the USA into a dystopia. The effing cult leader is either insane or completely in the hands of Russia. Maybe both. And throw in incredibly vindictive and out for revenge. And we know Republicans love their money and look what he has done with that.
 

manly

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Fenixgoon

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My work has a meeting on "election impact on our business"

And I'm very curious what our internally broadcast sentiment is going to be. Because anyone with a modicum of sense should have seen this madness coming a mile away.
 

SMOGZINN

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My work has a meeting on "election impact on our business"

And I'm very curious what our internally broadcast sentiment is going to be. Because anyone with a modicum of sense should have seen this madness coming a mile away.
"I never thought leopards would eat MY face," sobs woman who voted for the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party.
 

Fenixgoon

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"I never thought leopards would eat MY face," sobs woman who voted for the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party.
I'm fully expecting this. It's going to have to take some personal willpower from me to not comment in a way that would get me fired
 

K1052

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I'm fully expecting this. It's going to have to take some personal willpower from me to not comment in a way that would get me fired

Besides the metals tariffs there isn't a lot of certainty about what's going to happen until we hit 4/2. Like everything between 5% universal tariff and 500% tariffs on any country with a VAT is possible.
 

Fenixgoon

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Besides the metals tariffs there isn't a lot of certainty about what's going to happen until we hit 4/2. Like everything between 5% universal tariff and 500% tariffs on any country with a VAT is possible.
My company uses lots of metal, and does lots of import/export (global manufacturer) Which is why I'm so curious as to our internally communicated take on this shitshow.
 

KMFJD

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So a country negotiating prices with pharmaceutical companies directly is an unfair trade practice according to these dumbfuck lobbyists to this even dumber administration?


The letter argues this process "systematically devalues US medicines" and fails to "appropriately recognise innovation" by preferencing cheaper "generic" versions of medicines rather than the higher-priced originals in some circumstances.

"[Australia] penalises legitimate efforts by innovators to protect their intellectual property rights," the letter read.

The Trump administration intends to impose fresh tariffs in April on countries it believes employ "unfair" trade practices, a term that has been applied extremely broadly, including to sales taxes such as Australia's GST.

The purpose of the letter is to encourage the Trump administration to regard the PBS, and several other medicine schemes around the world, as an unfair practice and impose tariffs in response, for instance on Australia's own pharmaceutical exports into the US.
 
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So a country negotiating prices with pharmaceutical companies directly is an unfair trade practice according to these dumbfuck lobbyists to this even dumber administration?

Wait. Those MFers are actively trying to HELP their people? WTF man! If they want to live let them pay for the privilege like Americans. They wear all their deaths from preventable causes like a badge of honor!
 
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K1052

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What's wrong with a little unpredictablity? A lot it turns out. Car dealers fret about slow sales, building inventory. Which is amusing since they are often giant financial backers of Rs and Trump specifically.

https://www.freep.com/story/money/c...-uaw-job-cuts-layoffs-automotive/82490511007/

Ford dealer Jim Seavitt has an uneasy feeling in the pit of his stomach these days that's reminiscent of how he felt about 17 years ago.

"We’re down 50% in leads. Everything’s off 40% to 50%. People just aren’t looking at cars right now," Seavitt, who owns Village Ford in Dearborn, told the Detroit Free Press. "It reminds me of 2008 when the mortgage crisis hit. It’s looking like it’s the starting of a crisis. This whole uneasy feeling right now."

Seavitt was referring to the start of the Great Recession in 2008. His disquiet is shared across the industry. Many UAW local leaders at Ford Motor Co. and General Motors plants around the U.S. told the Free Press they are concerned that the tariff war will disrupt production. That, combined with volatile auto sales due to consumer uncertainty surrounding President Donald Trump’s policies and their potential effects on the broad economy, including a plummeting stock market, will all inevitably lead to layoffs. Some local union leaders are even advising members to start saving their money.

"I am concerned about manufacturing as a whole this year because people can’t afford to buy groceries, so people aren’t going to buy a $70,000 car," said a local UAW leader. "I am telling my people to start saving their money. Dealers are down 50% on sales and inventory is stacking up. I think manufacturing as a whole this year will be down."

Seavitt had hoped the tariffs would work in his favor by prompting car buyers to get vehicles now before prices potentially rise. But the economic uncertainty and the stock market volatility could be contributing to the lackluster sales, he said. Last month, the store sold 140 new cars, down from the 200 it usually sells. In used cars, it sold 47, down from the typical 80 sold. Seavitt said used car sales are picking up this month and he expects to sell 75 to 80.

Still, he worries.

“I’m concerned. I’m concerned about the economy, the market. Most of my people have 401(k)s and they’re getting hurt. My salesmen, I hope they saved money. Parts and Service is doing well," Seavitt said. "The No. 1 problem with cars — last June before all this crap started — was affordability. I hope it doesn’t get uglier."
 

brycejones

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What's wrong with a little unpredictablity? A lot it turns out. Car dealers fret about slow sales, building inventory. Which is amusing since they are often giant financial backers of Rs and Trump specifically.

https://www.freep.com/story/money/c...-uaw-job-cuts-layoffs-automotive/82490511007/
Dealers back Rs because they want to limit regulation so they are free to dick over consumers and ultimately pay no taxes. It's funny watching NADA lose it's shit at Scout's plan to go the direct sales route.
 
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