Could have a gym too, the equipment puts power back into the charging system.
I think it's a HUGE missed opportunity to not put a custom plaza at every charger:
1. Fast food joint or diner
2. Mini mart with snacks, drinks, and a bathroom
3, Gym & shower
Tesla Burgers, Tesla Mart, Tesla Workout Club pass. Seems like you'd make more money selling snacks than electricity! Especially now that nearly everyone is using NACS!
Could have a gym too, the equipment puts power back into the charging system.
If people are treating charging like getting gas on a regular basis, then they need to probably adjust their charging habits.I've sat at chargers for 15 minutes vs. a gas pump for 2 minutes, it's a looong time in practice lol. Also, not every charging trip is the result of a 200-mile run; many people only charge up as needed.
15 minutes is incredible progress for where it's at, as it didn't exist before...but 5 minutes would make it feel a lot more livable!
If people are treating charging like getting gas on a regular basis, then they need to probably adjust their charging habits.
That's called being a cheapskate. That's a lot of work to save a few bucks of electricity.My other buddy has a Nissan Leaf. His goal was "never charge at home." His work had free charging; he would sometimes have to stop at the dealership, but he hit 100k miles & never used any electricity at home on his own dime!
That's all many people need. Hell - many people could get by with L1 charging because it can still put on about 50 miles of charge/night, and most people don't drive that far in a day.The best setup I've seen is Level 2 charging at home. My buddy installed his right next to his front door (no garage). He literally parks, plugs in, and walks in the door lol.
That's called being a cheapskate. That's a lot of work to save a few bucks of electricity.
The Volt was fantastic, but it fell prey to US automakers marketing that pushes larger, more profitable, and arguably more dangerous vehicles.It was a constant game to him...he was really tickled to game the system lol.
I think the discontinued Volt was a fantastic design...53 miles on battery & 420 miles total with gas. imo we should really be focused on extended-battery hybrids, as they are far more practical. The upcoming Ramcharger is going in the right direction...145-mile battery & 690 miles total range. Unfortunately, I've been burned by Dodge/FCA/Stellantis no less than 3 times (last one was a lemon Jeep that left me stranded a lot, lol), so I'll pass due to the quality issues, but I'm glad to see progress being made!
The Volt was fantastic, but it fell prey to US automakers marketing that pushes larger, more profitable, and arguably more dangerous vehicles.
We could make our battery supplies go a lot further if we made more extended range type Leafs over large, standard range pickups.
And as nice as plugin hybrids could be for some of the market, their increased complexity isn't exactly a big selling point. Being 100% of one thing or another makes it much easier to maintain. I have a relatively recent non-plug-in hybrid, and annoyingly, many mechanics won't or can't deal with the hybrid components (potentially necessitating a trip to a dealership if anything goes wrong on that side).
It's just gross. A sign of American excess that people can spend so much on a depreciating asset that is also the model to represent the pinnacle of waste.I just saw the new Hummer EV on the highway...it's hilariously massive.
And yeah, for hybrids...double the systems, twice the cost when things break! I'd like to see a hybrid Leaf with like the 1.0L Fiesta engine tho...
It's just gross. A sign of American excess that people can spend so much on a depreciating asset that is also the model to represent the pinnacle of waste.
And I don't think you really need to make those plug in hybrids anymore. The battery tech is here. There are some it won't work for yet, but for so many households, they are perfect viable options.
The problem is many people in apartments have no access to home charging. EV fast charging is decent for road trips, but not for daily use, both price and performance-wise.And I don't think you really need to make those plug in hybrids anymore. The battery tech is here. There are some it won't work for yet, but for so many households, they are perfect viable options.
That's interesting. What in particular in the Bolt gets you? Seems to me the bolt seats are at least a few inches higher than the leaf. Wish more mfgs would copy Easy Entry from Tesla. Moves the seat and steering wheel in a position you feel is easier to enter and exitI have the same issue as boomer. Tall and not getting any more flexible for crawling in and out of a Bolt.
At least the Leaf lets me in OK.
Yes, people in apartments have limited access to home charging, but this is where infrastructure comes in: help complexes put in L2 chargers, or just let them build them as a way to attract residents. I've seen a number of apartment complexes around where I live install chargers, as a way to attract residents (and shift some of their costs because people were previously using random garage outlets to slow charge).The problem is many people in apartments have no access to home charging. EV fast charging is decent for road trips, but not for daily use, both price and performance-wise.
I'd like to see only two kinds of new vehicles available in America: EVs and plug-in hybrids with solar charging. With solar charging people who don't want an EV wouldn't be able to avoid getting like 10 EV miles per day no matter how hard it is to plug in.
More than half the cost of a new DC Fast Charger is wrapped up in a single safety circuit
$54,000 In Shock Protection: Why It's Important
That system is called an isolation link. According to IEEE Spectrum, the actual cost of this protection layer is an estimated $54,000. Scale that up to a full 8-stall charging location and that's more than $430,000 dedicated to only safety equipment. Here's how it works:
Gas pumps rely on mechanical flow control to stop fuel from flowing into a car. EV chargers deal with high-voltage electricity, often at 800 volts or more. Electricity is lazy—it's going to find the shortest path to ground, and if things go sideways at such a high power, it's enough to fry you instantly. You can see why safety is such a big deal.
An isolation link achieves a safety principle known as galvanic isolation. This means taking two separate circuits in a single electrical system and preventing current from flowing between them. In the world of EV chargers, this means severing the electrical path between the charger's power source and the car. So on the off chance that a fault does occur, the energy has nowhere to go but back into the grid.
roof height to seat, ironically a lower seat helps me get my long trunk through the hole with a compact car. Lots of models I run into the roofline about mid-ear.That's interesting. What in particular in the Bolt gets you? Seems to me the bolt seats are at least a few inches higher than the leaf. Wish more mfgs would copy Easy Entry from Tesla. Moves the seat and steering wheel in a position you feel is easier to enter and exit
Been looking for fun and actually found a used F150 lightning for only ~56k, or about 65k give or take with taxes etc. It's a 2024 so basically brand new. Wonder why someone would buy and then get rid of it so soon? That's almost tempting to jump on. The owner already managed to put 33 thousand km on it in only 1 year so maybe it's just someone that travels a lot and realized an EV is not practical for their use case.
Good to know that there are in fact used ones available, just have to look far for them, this one is in Brampton so quite far from me. It's a dealership, so they could probably arrange for delivery at an extra cost.
At 33k miles, either of a 2-year business lease (2024 model being 2023 year) or the range & towing didn't work for them. My buddy just got a used one for a similar price. Best EV on the market imo!
Oh yeah a lease would make sense, that could very well be what it was. For that many km business use makes sense too. Of all EVs this is definitely the one on my wish list. This is still more money than I'm ready to spend now but it's good to know that these are out there used, just have to look further out, then deal with getting it delivered or what not. Once my house is paid off in a few years I could actually afford something like this. Hopefully I find more for even cheaper at that point.
The box is tiny on it but I think the idea of having an EV with 8 foot box just won't happen, so I would just eventually get a nice big trailer like a 20 foot flat bed or something.
33k km so 20.5k miAt 33k miles, either of a 2-year business lease (2024 model being 2023 year) or the range & towing didn't work for them. My buddy just got a used one for a similar price. Best EV on the market imo!
What do you mean copy Tesla? That was on my 2006 MB E350 4Matic. 2015 QX50 had it. My 2024 Odyssey has the seat but not the motorized steering wheel.That's interesting. What in particular in the Bolt gets you? Seems to me the bolt seats are at least a few inches higher than the leaf. Wish more mfgs would copy Easy Entry from Tesla. Moves the seat and steering wheel in a position you feel is easier to enter and exit