The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Me Its War Plans

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It is also not clear the president explicitly authorized the strike. Which um seems like a problem.
Seems like we're going to end up with a Babylon 5/Nightwatch situation, where someone defies an action because "you must follow the chain of command". The VP cannot give an order. The DNI cannot give an order. And the president's ghoulish advisor, Miller, cannot give an order.
 
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They are succeeding in their plan though. They are trying to change the conversation to is the info REALLY classified and it's kind of working.
 

K1052

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They are succeeding in their plan though. They are trying to change the conversation to is the info REALLY classified and it's kind of working.

What you want is for the story not to snowball and become a thing for multiple days or perhaps weeks. So far not looking real good on that front.
 

fskimospy

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They are succeeding in their plan though. They are trying to change the conversation to is the info REALLY classified and it's kind of working.
Not sure how well that's going to work when you have the secretary of defense literally stating in advance the time and place of an airstrike.
 
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Not sure how well that's going to work when you have the secretary of defense literally stating in advance the time and place of an airstrike.
Time, place, weapon systems to be used... They think we're all idiots as they think they're being clever dancing around the questions.

Someone intercepting those messages could have prepositioned air defenses. If I recall, predictability is what led to a successful takedown of an F117 stealth bomber over Serbia during the Clinton administration. Someone having this advanced knowledge could have tried to do the same.
 

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Gabbard is now saying the reason she lied to Congress about this is she forgot basic information about a major operation she was directly involved with that happened a couple weeks ago.

 
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pauldun170

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There is so much to unpack on this story, I don't even know where to start.
This goes way beyond amateurville
 
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Not sure how well that's going to work when you have the secretary of defense literally stating in advance the time and place of an airstrike.
Doesn't change the facts, but I see more and more yelling about whether it's classified than what it actually was.
 

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There is so much to unpack on this story, I don't even know where to start.
This goes way beyond amateurville

I'm looking forward to the bit where the broader media discovers that the Houthis have SAMs.
 

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Time, place, weapon systems to be used... They think we're all idiots as they think they're being clever dancing around the questions.

Someone intercepting those messages could have prepositioned air defenses. If I recall, predictability is what led to a successful takedown of an F117 stealth bomber over Serbia during the Clinton administration. Someone having this advanced knowledge could have tried to do the same.

They think were idiots because theyre used to appeasing idiots for votes. I havent even ventured to fox or newsmax to see how theyre handling this, but its probably just the old deep state lets go Brandon stufff
 

fskimospy

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Doesn't change the facts, but I see more and more yelling about whether it's classified than what it actually was.
Maybe we're reading different sources but I haven't seen much of this. What they seem to have settled on for the moment is that they were only 'attack plans' instead of 'war plans', which... is not going to work.
 

HomerJS

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I seriously don't believe either side in its entirety, I think the facts will fall somewhere in the middle.

I do hope that they investigate this completely and find out what the actual facts are. I do think they should be able to get a transcript of the discussion and if blame is to be found there should also be appropriate accountability of any party(s) that bear blame.
Since you seem to think the reporter bears some responsibility (facts fall in the middle)

What is the level of responsibility by the reporter 0-10 since you think the facts are in the middle?

IMO - The reporter bears 0 responsibility vs the Trump signal team who should be a 10.
 
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