Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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K1052

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Ukraine is producing more than 18 2S22 Bohdanas a month and looking to expand to 40 (or more) by using an additional chassis supplier.

https://bsky.app/profile/jeff2146.bsky.social/post/3lkvx3ur3vs2c

They need to replace a vast amount of soviet caliber guns so this is good news. They could even end up selling them to other countries since IIRC they are very cost effective. Efforts to localize more ammunition production remain key for them though.
 

kage69

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Ammo dump at the Engels bomber base looking a little worse for wear.

https://bsky.app/profile/specialkhersoncat.bsky.social/post/3lkvnx2cq2s2v


Some explosion, I wonder what they hit. They said debris was touching down 5km away. Any aircraft in the open that escaped the immediate blast probably still could have caught lots of damage from frag, chunks of runway and buildings. Well done AFU.

Putin losing more of his vintage, artisanal bombers and use of a base to cheap drones, that's great news for the whole world really.
 

K1052

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Some explosion, I wonder what they hit. They said debris was touching down 5km away. Any aircraft in the open that escaped the immediate blast probably still could have caught lots of damage from frag, chunks of runway and buildings. Well done AFU.

Putin losing more of his vintage, artisanal bombers and use of a base to cheap drones, that's great news for the whole world really.

I've seen it suggested that a bunch of Kh-101 ALCMs exploded.
 

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Jaskalas

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Hopefully she is ok.
Looks like she was caught before the suicide bombing - as she faces charges.
Other Ukrainian teens were not so fortunate.

Russian agents used risqué pics to blackmail Ukrainian schoolgirl into terror act

In early March, two teenage boys recruited through Telegram were blown up by their Russian handlers. One was killed instantly and the other critically injured. Other minors were also implicated in the terror plot in the western city of Ivano-Frankivsk, the SBU said.
 

RnR_au

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A few points harvested from the feed this morning;

* Ukrainian forces are expanding their presence in the Belgorod region.
* Sudzha gas metering station continues to burn in the Kursk region.
* Oil transshipment point "Kavkazskaya" is still on fire.
* Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson, Zhao Lijian, denied reports that Chinese officials are discussing participation in a peacekeeping mission in Ukraine after the war ends.
* U.S. officials have started taking Putin at his word—even when their own intelligence contradicts him, Zelensky says.
* Putin orders diplomats to delay peace talks on Ukraine.
* The State Duma has proposed launching the Central Bank's "printing press" to fill the budget
* In Russia’s Oryol region, schoolgirls who are officially registered as pregnant will now receive payments of 100,000 rubles (about $1,200).
* EU leaders have agreed plans to raise $863 billion for defence. The five-part "ReArm" Europe plan also includes support for Ukraine’s defence capabilities.
 

Jimminy

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* EU leaders have agreed plans to raise $863 billion for defence. The five-part "ReArm" Europe plan also includes support for Ukraine’s defence capabilities.
Since I'm in the US, THAT is a bright point for me. I hope our orange mad-man won't be able to twist and extort the europeans.
 

Jaskalas

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The United State's abdication of world super power... is igniting a global nuclear arms race. And eventually, nuclear war.
Who wants to be the next Ukraine, having lost over 10 million in population, with the specter of unending war and "allies" trying to hand you over on a silver platter.
It is clear that agreements are not real, never have been. When all you have is a piece of paper, who wants to be the next Ned Stark?

From Berlin to Tokyo, the fears of a new nuclear arms race

“Haunted” by the thought of a “spiralling nuclear arms race” around the world, US President John F Kennedy initiated talks in the 1960s on what would become the Non-Proliferation Treaty, a bargain between superpowers that has kept nuclear weapons states in single digits to this day.
The containment rested on the US extending its nuclear umbrella to convince allies they need not seek the weapons themselves.
...
Now, under Donald Trump, that assurance has never appeared weaker.
 

kage69

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A few points harvested from the feed this morning;

* Ukrainian forces are expanding their presence in the Belgorod region.
* Sudzha gas metering station continues to burn in the Kursk region.
* Oil transshipment point "Kavkazskaya" is still on fire.
* Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson, Zhao Lijian, denied reports that Chinese officials are discussing participation in a peacekeeping mission in Ukraine after the war ends.
* U.S. officials have started taking Putin at his word—even when their own intelligence contradicts him, Zelensky says.
* Putin orders diplomats to delay peace talks on Ukraine.
* The State Duma has proposed launching the Central Bank's "printing press" to fill the budget
* In Russia’s Oryol region, schoolgirls who are officially registered as pregnant will now receive payments of 100,000 rubles (about $1,200).
* EU leaders have agreed plans to raise $863 billion for defence. The five-part "ReArm" Europe plan also includes support for Ukraine’s defence capabilities.


I want to make it clear they aren't just talking about college age girls here.

How many of the kidnapped Ukrainian girls will be pregnant soon I wonder. Some probably already are.
 

K1052

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General news of more ceasefire work this time regarding the Black Sea. Ukraine and Russia have agreed to lists of sites for the energy ceasefire which was already supposed to be in effect...so we'll see.

Deep Russian annoyance with Ukrainian strikes on their oil and gas infra quite apparent. A very successful program.
 
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you2

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General news of more ceasefire work this time regarding the Black Sea. Ukraine and Russia have agreed to lists of sites for the energy ceasefire which was already supposed to be in effect...so we'll see.

Deep Russian annoyance with Ukrainian strikes on their oil and gas infra quite apparent. A very successful program.
Probably hurts Ukraine more than Russia to have this cease fire; a few more of those oil refinery and ...
 

K1052

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Probably hurts Ukraine more than Russia to have this cease fire; a few more of those oil refinery and ...

So far Zelensky seems ok. Ukraine has their own reasons to want a break too and they reserve the right to retaliate for any breach.
 

DZero

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Actually a break would benefit the Euros more, with more organized help, Russia would have a hard time trying to get more territory
 

trenchfoot

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With Putin's long term goal of bending Western Europe's democracies to his will, he will never agree to any version of a "ceasefire" if it isn't to his advantage in this regard. I dare say he wouldn't agree to a deal even if a deal was mutually beneficial to both sides. With Trump being an obedient stooge of his, it doesn't seem likely that Putin would settle for anything less than a satisfying strategic advantage over Ukraine's fight for it's independence.
 
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balloonshark

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Am I the only one that sees these cease fires as an opportunity to build up large caches of drones and missiles which would mean larger waves of attacks once the cease fire is inevitably breached.
 

trenchfoot

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Am I the only one that sees these cease fires as an opportunity to build up large caches of drones and missiles which would mean larger waves of attacks once the cease fire is inevitably breached.

Looks like Trump wants a ceasefire a whole lot more than Zelenskyy and Putin so he can claim what a great statesman he is, although he's already claimed that title for himself anyway. He's stuck in the middle of a fight much like how a girl would referee a fight between two guys who claim rights to her charms.

Seems as if there is no practical way to end this war other than Putin giving up the fight and pulling his troops out and that will never happen unless something drastic changes the balance of power in that conflict, like Trump suddenly dying of natural causes. So long as Putin has Trump cowering in his shadow, there's not much reason for Putin to agree to any scenario where he comes out with less than what he's taken up to this point in time.
 

cytg111

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Am I the only one that sees these cease fires as an opportunity to build up large caches of drones and missiles which would mean larger waves of attacks once the cease fire is inevitably breached.
I see it as an opportunity for Putin to put on a show and manipulate Trump into giving Russia weapons and intelligence on Ukraine.
The cease fire is going to break and Trump is going to deepthroat the false flag bigly. Tulsi will also be sure that the intelligence info he gets paints exactly that narrative.

Wait for it.
 
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K1052

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Am I the only one that sees these cease fires as an opportunity to build up large caches of drones and missiles which would mean larger waves of attacks once the cease fire is inevitably breached.

Sure but Ukraine will certainly make their own preparations as well. It's not a free lunch for the Kremlin.
 
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trenchfoot

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I see it as an opportunity for Putin to put on a show and manipulate Trump into giving Russia weapons and intelligence on Ukraine.
The cease fire is going to break and Trump is going to deepthroat the false flag bigly. Tulsi will also be sure that the intelligence info he gets paints exactly that narrative.

Wait for it.

Much like how Hitler's generals were placating him with fake news from the front for fear Der Führer would publicly execute them just out of spite.
 
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balloonshark

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I have been watching this YouTube channel for a while now. No Idea how accurate the info is. They used to show footage by the bots complained. Sometimes I get the feeling that Ukraine has Russia on the ropes but they have way more meat to sacrifice.

 

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K1052

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Gotta play for time. You know where the US is going. Just delay delay delay until Europe can ramp up and start to fill in the inevitable gap.

Ukraine is also receiving arms and vehicles still under aid granted by Biden. Once most of the USAI contracts are fulfilled there will be little reason for them to listen to the US about much. So stretching things out is the best play for now.
 
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