Only 31% of Americans want an EV or PHEV. What about you?

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My fiance will soon be in the market for a 3-row CUV/SUV when her current Escape dies, and would love to get a PHEV but there aren't many to choose from.

She really wants a new 4Runner (not 3 rows but she likes the extra space), but being more truck-like and probably not the best ride I told her we would look around and see what else fits. Toyota doesn't seem to have any PHEV this large (only hybrid 4Runner/Highlander/Grand Highlander), so I was also looking at the CX-90 and that's about it. Volvo and Lexus are out of our budget, and not interested in a Kia or Mitsu.

We both work from home, and most driving during the week is around town, so the short EV range of a PHEV seems nice. Maybe Toyota will bring the Lexus TX550h+ drivetrain into a Grand Highlander model in the near future, since the tariffs might be delaying this purchase.
It seems kind of pointless to buy so much extra car if it's just 2 of you for some normal in-town driving.
 
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My fiance will soon be in the market for a 3-row CUV/SUV when her current Escape dies, and would love to get a PHEV but there aren't many to choose from.

She really wants a new 4Runner (not 3 rows but she likes the extra space), but being more truck-like and probably not the best ride I told her we would look around and see what else fits. Toyota doesn't seem to have any PHEV this large (only hybrid 4Runner/Highlander/Grand Highlander), so I was also looking at the CX-90 and that's about it. Volvo and Lexus are out of our budget, and not interested in a Kia or Mitsu.

We both work from home, and most driving during the week is around town, so the short EV range of a PHEV seems nice. Maybe Toyota will bring the Lexus TX550h+ drivetrain into a Grand Highlander model in the near future, since the tariffs might be delaying this purchase.
Sienna hybrid. Three row SUV sacrifices second row leg room.

Kia Carnival is a minivan styled to look like a SUV
 
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It seems kind of pointless to buy so much extra car if it's just 2 of you for some normal in-town driving.

We plan on having kid(s) in the next few years, and we have a large dog (why we want a third row, or at least a roomy cargo area). We are also active and haul a lot (skis, snowboard, bikes, other gear), so having extra room is a bonus. We also keep vehicles for 10+ years, so we want something to grow into. Her Escape is a 2014 and hopefully it lasts a couple more years, but we're getting an idea of what we want now. I just don't want to work on it when things start to break, I do that enough with my fun car.

Sienna hybrid. Three row SUV sacrifices second row leg room.

Kia Carnival is a minivan styled to look like a SUV

She won't go for a minivan, even though I like 'em. You can get a lot for the money with those things. But still, the Sienna Hybrid isn't a PHEV, and looks to be similar to the 4Runner and (Grand) Highlander Hybrids.

Or watch KIA ev9 lease deals and go full EV, they pop up for really good deals off and on.

I don't think we're ready for full EV just yet. We live in Western NY and the range hit EVs take in the winter is not ideal, especially if we decide to go visit her parents or go skiing 2hrs away. Garage space is taken in the summer, and road trips are beyond the typical range and we are the splash-and-go types when we stop. I'm excited to see what the future brings with faster charging and better battery tech though. PHEV seems like the sweet spot for us right now.

I should clarify while we do typically stay around town during the week, we do occasionally drive an hour to visit parents or 2.5 hours to her parent's summer house or 4 hours to my parent's cottage. I just like the idea of not having to use gas during the week with a PHEV.
 
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She won't go for a minivan, even though I like 'em. You can get a lot for the money with those things. But still, the Sienna Hybrid isn't a PHEV, and looks to be similar to the 4Runner and (Grand) Highlander Hybrids.

Minivans seem like the perfect EV platform to me: slap a 500-mile battery onto the huge footprint, add AWD, dual sliding doors, fold down all the seats to act like a small box truck inside to haul stuff.

But America is set on SUV's, so minivans just don't sell well...
 

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Ordered a BMW i4 M50 yesterday. Delivery is in 2.5 to 3 months. I just hope Trump does not get mad at Germany during that time and fuck up the delivery of my car. Pretty excited about getting it.
Went to the dealer today to see what affect the tariffs would have. They said the car is built, has been assigned a VIN and is good to go. The price will be the same. Still a long way to go but at least that hurdle should be cleared.
 
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