I thought the era of credit card companies moronically / randomly rejecting transactions was over...

mikeymikec

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Several years ago, when using my credit card to order stuff for customers, it was commonplace for my credit card provider to occasionally reject a transaction and get in contact with me to ask, "was this really you who ordered from this company that you've ordered from umpteen times before and this transaction wasn't remarkable in any other way?".

Then along came Internet authentication systems that would connect through to your bank and allow you to do various things like confirm with an app interaction or an OTP SMS etc that the transaction is in fact authorised, which AFAIK was the end of the earlier scenario I described.

Today I decided to order 10 or so MP3s from Amazon to do what I call a mix cd (despite the fact that it will only be on my phone). Several MP3s in and Amazon said that the transaction wasn't authorised. I tried going into my order history and go through the 'verify and pay now' option, which was also rejected.

I then got a text from my cc provider saying:

"<cc provider> will text about a payment on your card ending XXXX. Only fraudsters call in person to tell you to reply 'yes' to our text or give them a passcode".

I read that message more than once because the wording is a little odd.

Another text arrived a couple of minutes later:

"Please be aware that you need to respond or we'll decline future card payments. <cc provider> has noticed your <cc provider> card ending in XXXX was used <today's date and time> at Amazon Music for £.99. This payment was declined. If this was you reply YES, otherwise reply NO."
 
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sdifox

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Op is an idiot. Instead of adding mp3s to the cart and check out once, he sends a whole bunch of small transactions. Of course he is going to trigger fraud detection.
 
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mikeymikec

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Op is an idiot. Instead of adding mp3s to the cart and check out once, he sends a whole bunch of small transactions. Of course he is going to trigger fraud detection?
I don't think you can do that with Amazon Music.... nope, it gives me the option to buy a track, not add it to basket.
 
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sdifox

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I buy on Amazon, not Amazon music.

WTFBBQ they got rid of the mp3 cart.
 
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mikeymikec

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@sdifox I reported an issue with the Amazon UK website yesterday (one can no longer open transactions in new tabs from the transactions list, which is really irritating when going through stuff that went to the joint credit card!). You could report the bug you've encountered!
 

mikeymikec

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I only buy CDs or vinyl.
If I was buying albums, I think the same way. In hindsight though, if I had the option to buy a single track for 99p when I started my music collection, I wonder if I would have saved a lot on albums that I only really liked say 3-4 tracks from.

@sdifox who do you buy mp3s from now?
 

sdifox

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If I was buying albums, I think the same way. In hindsight though, if I had the option to buy a single track for 99p when I started my music collection, I wonder if I would have saved a lot on albums that I only really liked say 3-4 tracks from.

@sdifox who do you buy mp3s from now?
I don't. I RIP them myself.
 
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The last time I bought a bunch of songs from Amazon, even in individual transactions, they batched them together into a single charge if they were in the same day.
 

lxskllr

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I pretty much only buy on bandcamp. If it isn't on there, it's *very* unlikely I'll buy it. They offer single tracks, but I only buy albums. If a band can't be arsed to make a good album, I can't be arsed to give them money. I do sometimes rip tracks from youtube, but it's generally for stuff that's unobtanium through normal channels.
 

mikeymikec

Lifer
May 19, 2011
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alas, USD only.

One curious thing about buying music from Amazon is their AutoRip feature - I've bought CDs as presents for other people and ended up with a copy automatically in my own Amazon Music collection The RIAA should sue Amazon!
 
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lxskllr

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I've paid in currencies other than USD. Paypal makes the conversion, and you pay whatever. I have no idea if the conversion rate is favorable or not, but the sums are so small it doesn't matter. If you have a problem with paypal, I'm not sure how you pay. I've always used them.
 

sdifox

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Credit card companies do FOREX. The rates and fees might suck but it works.
 
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