[DHT]Osiris
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They should, and they should escalate the way the US would.Maybe Denmark would activate article 5 in the NATO agreement.
They should, and they should escalate the way the US would.Maybe Denmark would activate article 5 in the NATO agreement.
The cancerous organ in DC is already attacking the US, much like when your immune system starts attacking the organs in your body.Would the US then be obliged to attack itself?
It is when addressing me and my statements. You are attempting to draw inference I would gas Jews with your bullshit strawman. I clearly made the statement I would not follow orders to attacks civilians etc. Fuck off.I'm trying to say the gulf between "Congress declares war to legally invade Greenland to satisfy Trump's ego" and "Nazis gas Jews" is not as wide as one might hope.
Want a scary thought? I just looked up what is required for Congress to declare war. It’s a simple majority.
Republicans can give Trump his war with Greenland
Does Vance know this? If he knew the price for invading Greenland would be voiding our sofas I guarantee no invasion.Most Euro countries would void our SOFAs practically overnight and PNG our ambassadors.
Can you dumb that down for me?Most Euro countries would void our SOFAs practically overnight and PNG our ambassadors.
Can you dumb that down for me?
Aren't your choices basically (1) follow the order (2) go to jail or (3) fire on your superior?I’m hoping members of the military vote on this. If you consider it illegal would you resign or refuse to follow it?
I’m interested if anyone has knowledge on this. You can change your mind later after initial vote
No.Aren't your choices basically (1) follow the order (2) go to jail or (3) fire on your superior?
Agreed however post 9/11 Congress appears to have abandoned that duty and have delegated that to the President. See Afghanistan, Iraq.Invading an independent state to annex its territory to the US should never happen but if it does it should only be as a declared war following a declaration of war by Congress. Absent the declaration of war it is in an unconstitutional order.
I'd hope after our overseas adventures and disasters there, we'd have the hindsight to know pure that military imperialism is folly. Economics and diplomacy, backed by a strong security compact (e g. NATO) is vastly superior.Agreed however post 9/11 Congress appears to have abandoned that duty and have delegated that to the President. See Afghanistan, Iraq.
And that’s the rub. Congress doesn’t want to be called pussies and congress doesn’t want to be called liars, it is easier to keep doing what they have been doing and give the President all the leeway the President wants.I'd hope after our overseas adventures and disasters there, we'd have the hindsight to know pure that military imperialism is folly. Economics and diplomacy, backed by a strong security compact (e g. NATO) is vastly superior.
After all, we invaded Iraq on a lie. We should learn from that, and i hope American history books in the future years crucify us for that decision. That's part of the reason i am so anti-invading-greenland in this thread even if Congress legally declares it. Because we toppled a nation, killed ~200,000 (including civilians) , displaced millions, and spent trillions of dollars. On a lie.
They'd probably go a step further and just detain all American forces, they're essentially enemy combatants at that point.Most Euro countries would void our SOFAs practically overnight and PNG our ambassadors.
In normal world military? No, there's other avenues however they all suck and generally result in the end of your career one way or another. Bizzaro invade Canada world? Maybe.Aren't your choices basically (1) follow the order (2) go to jail or (3) fire on your superior?
Simple: will overpay for Russian quality ones.Does Vance know this? If he knew the price for invading Greenland would be voiding our sofas I guarantee no invasion.
If they were really smart they would offer them citizenship.They'd probably go a step further and just detain all American forces, they're essentially enemy combatants at that point.
Not dogging on you and I understand your position but would you be expecting to invade Canada and occupy it with no civilian casualties? Surely participating in the invasion and occupation of a country is attacking civilians?It is when addressing me and my statements. You are attempting to draw inference I would gas Jews with your bullshit strawman. I clearly made the statement I would not follow orders to attacks civilians etc. Fuck off.