It doesn't matter if the defenders are military or civilian. A war of aggression is a war crime under the Nuremberg Principles.
It doesn't matter if the defenders are military or civilian. A war of aggression is a war crime under the Nuremberg Principles.Not dogging on you and I understand your position but would you be expecting to invade Canada and occupy it with no civilian casualties? Surely participating in the invasion and occupation of a country is attacking civilians?
There's legal and 'legal'. Trump telling someone to shoot an unarmed civilian in the street might be legal, but it ain't right, and I'll argue my case in court on that.Illegal how? If the president of the USA orders it, NOT illegal by US law. Potentially illegal and worthy of getting hauled to the Hague? Absolutely.
UhIllegal how? If the president of the USA orders it, NOT illegal by US law. Potentially illegal and worthy of getting hauled to the Hague? Absolutely.
Illegal how? If the president of the USA orders it, NOT illegal by US law. Potentially illegal and worthy of getting hauled to the Hague? Absolutely.
Had to Google this. Reading about the My Lai Massacre even under generic verbage is horrifying.Lt. William Calley would like a word. 🤔
1. Completion of Service Obligation – Once the agreed-upon term is fulfilled, service members can separate or retire.
2. Resignation of Officers – Commissioned officers may submit a request for resignation, but it must be approved. Some officers have a service obligation they must complete before resigning.
3. Hardship or Dependency Discharges – In cases of severe personal hardship (such as family emergencies), a service member can apply for an early discharge.
4. Conscientious Objection – If a service member develops a sincere moral or religious opposition to war, they can apply for discharge as a conscientious objector.
5. Medical Discharge – If a service member is physically or mentally unfit for duty, they may be medically separated.
6. Administrative or Other-than-Honorable Discharges – In cases of misconduct or other administrative issues, a member may be separated early, but this can carry negative consequences.
7. Entry-Level Separation – If a new recruit is found to be unfit for service during basic training, they may receive an early discharge.
Calley got hung out to dry by his superior officers. Was what he did wrong? Absolutely. Did he follow orders? Yes...but none of his superior officers who gave those orders ever paid the price for it.Lt. William Calley would like a word. 🤔
That’s why I’m saying soldiers need to get out now. Mass exodus will get the attention of the publicCalley got hung out to dry by his superior officers. Was what he did wrong? Absolutely. Did he follow orders? Yes...but none of his superior officers who gave those orders ever paid the price for it.
However, this was much different. What happened at MyLai was illegal under US law. Should Trump order US troops into Greenland with orders to "shoot anyone who interferes with your duties," then they will be acting under the color of orders from their Commander in Chief, not just officers in the chain of command. Keep in mind...under Trump, the law is whatever HE says it is.
To cancel America's presence (and "cost") of operating in Europe is the point.Status Of Forces Agreements are what permit the US military to base and operate out of foreign nations like say Germany. If a host nation withdrew this it's basically them telling us to leave. I'm sure some would ask "How can they make us since we are so powerful". Well all these bases depend on a host of local services to keep fed, fueled, etc. For instance if the Germans turned off our jet fuel at Ramstein we'd be in deep shit.
I'm sure you'll understand if I don't hold my breath waiting for that to happen...Hopefully if the order is given, it is the time a military coup happens in the US. Where they will be tried for high treason.
Lt. William Calley would like a word. 🤔
He recalls how part of the nation supported Calley throughout his trials.
“A huge part of the country was very pro-Calley, mostly in the far west and the south,” Wilberding said. “They were in very strong defense of him: ‘War is hell. People get killed in war.’ No one really ever looked at the critical facts. He had them tied up, contained, and guarded for hours before they were executed. President (Richard) Nixon saw all those as potential votes. He was going to be running for reelection. He was the one who ordered Calley be held in house arrest, instead of prison, while the appeal went forward. Calley was convicted of the murder of over 100 people, but when the case got to the court of military review, they affirmed a conviction of 20 people, but at all times, there was such a political effort supporting him, he spent less than a year in confinement at the military prison in Ft. Leavenworth, Kan.”
He furthers that the others in Calley’s platoon, some of whom did the shooting, could not be tried as all were privates who were released from the Army before the case came to light.
The CIC doesn't write the rules of war that America abides by. He can make an illegal order just the same way any other officer or NCO can.Calley got hung out to dry by his superior officers. Was what he did wrong? Absolutely. Did he follow orders? Yes...but none of his superior officers who gave those orders ever paid the price for it.
However, this was much different. What happened at MyLai was illegal under US law. Should Trump order US troops into Greenland with orders to "shoot anyone who interferes with your duties," then they will be acting under the color of orders from their Commander in Chief, not just officers in the chain of command. Keep in mind...under Trump, the law is whatever HE says it is.
Freedom of speech....Yay!I put this question up in the r/Military sub. I got a few answers before it was taken down without comment.
I suspect they are afraid of the question.
To be fair, freedom of speech does not apply to forums.Freedom of speech....Yay!
Don't think it would work out well if all the reasonable people left and the armed forces were just Trump diehards.That’s why I’m saying soldiers need to get out now. Mass exodus will get the attention of the public
Who the hell do you think does? The law is whatever Trump says it is.The CIC doesn't write the rules of war that America abides by. He can make an illegal order just the same way any other officer or NCO can.
I mean this was a bit controversial even back then, yeah?Well I was active duty when Bush decided to invade Iraq absent a declaration of war and I participated so I guess I have my answer.
Sure, but really presidents do this sort of shit all the time. Maybe they shouldn’t but that ship sailed a LONG time ago.I mean this was a bit controversial even back then, yeah?
Congress. The legislative branch of our government.Who the hell do you think does? The law is whatever Trump says it is.