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IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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Looks like things are moving into the dumps. Got a text that one of my somewhat low-priced limit buy orders executed for VXUS... Fortunately, it's for an inherited IRA that I'll be taking RMDs from for the next 40 years. A nice, long horizon.

Thanks Trump! Driving us right off the cliff because you and your cronies are just stupid.
Is that inherited IRA grandfathered so you’re not subject to the ten year rule?
 

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
14,063
9,825
136
Anyone buying stocks today or no one thinks this is the bottom with Liberation day around the corner?
 

linkgoron

Platinum Member
Mar 9, 2005
2,553
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Anyone buying stocks today or no one thinks this is the bottom with Liberation day around the corner?
Who knows? Trump could call off the tariffs and we'll get a huge pump or Trump could hit tariffs on everything and we'll dump some more.
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
30,412
2,531
126
The bottom will be when:

Any or all of the following happen...

The world gives up their tariffs in hopes the reciprocal one here comes off here.

The Fed cuts to zero and goes back to manipulating the bond market with ZIRP.

A major recession kicks in a year or longer from now,.

and in response Trump relaxes tariffs to spur trade

Trump asks Congress for stimulus payments

Or despite all of the above over 40 months. when Trump finally leaves office.

.... In the meantime flat to lower markets....with wild dead cat bounces in between. See the 2000 to 2002 market.
 

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
14,063
9,825
136


I'm not sure what she's trying to get at here.. so if you invested outside of Mag 7, you only had a 4% decline???

That seems off.. some stocks even outside are down quite a bit.
 

dullard

Elite Member
May 21, 2001
25,698
4,229
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Welp, I just dumped my cash into assets guaranteed to lose value: two new cars (for the wife and I). We both planned to get new cars sometime this year (over 500,000 combined between our current vehicles). But, this liberation day forced us to go early without any ability to negotiate since the dealers are having their vehicles fly off the shelves. The cars we bought have prices that are going up ~$2500 each tomorrow as they are ending any dealer discounts on April 1st. Plus, the MSRP will likely go higher but no one seems to have a clue how much. It has been a madhouse at the dealerships.

Now watch this all get cancelled next week and Trump can claim he spurred sales!
 
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K1052

Elite Member
Aug 21, 2003
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At some point, people will stop responding by rushing to buy, and just choose to go without.

Yes, there is a "Nah, I'm out." point that gets reached by consumers who might be getting worried there is going to be a recession or they could lose income in the next year. My interest in large outlays for durable goods right now that I don't expressly need to live is essentially zero.
 

repoman0

Diamond Member
Jun 17, 2010
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At some point, people will stop responding by rushing to buy, and just choose to go without.
Raises hand. Spent a shit ton of money over the past five months or so on my house (addition and turning my guest room into a nursery), now ready to turn off any and all unnecessary purchases and pour all of my money into foreign equities.

Certainly my cars will do for the foreseeable future and LOL at buying an American POS
 

jpiniero

Lifer
Oct 1, 2010
15,980
6,470
136
I'm not sure what she's trying to get at here.. so if you invested outside of Mag 7, you only had a 4% decline???

That seems off.. some stocks even outside are down quite a bit.

VTV is basically flat for the year. It makes sense when the Mag 7 are just meme stocks with no relation to real value.
 

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
14,063
9,825
136
now ready to turn off any and all unnecessary purchases


Ultimately this tariff war may be the doom of the American economy and it's overseas power.. which depends on large military spending.. which comes from taxes of mega cap companies and it's individuals.

You can't tax the companies if people don't want to buy their stuff and they don't have any profits.

I don't think the White House and its cronies are even remotely aware of how big the situation is and how badly it can and will snowball from here.

Surprisingly even if Trump backtracks his tariffs now, I think the damage is done.. the Boycott American Goods movement is here to stay and the economic figures need massive recalculating by the economists.

Not that they're ever going to show us the true figures anyways based on COVID!
 

linkgoron

Platinum Member
Mar 9, 2005
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Ultimately this tariff war may be the doom of the American economy and it's overseas power.. which depends on large military spending.. which comes from taxes of mega cap companies and it's individuals.

You can't tax the companies if people don't want to buy their stuff and they don't have any profits.

I don't think the White House and its cronies are even remotely aware of how big the situation is and how badly it can and will snowball from here.

Surprisingly even if Trump backtracks his tariffs now, I think the damage is done.. the Boycott American Goods movement is here to stay and the economic figures need massive recalculating by the economists.

Not that they're ever going to show us the true figures anyways based on COVID!
People have short memories. I don't see Tesla car sales rebounding, but as long as the US doesn't do something like annex Greenland or whatever, other companies will probably suffer at most until the end of the Trump presidency (if a Dem is elected after him).

It also depends on the company. Google, Microsoft, Meta etc. are probably not going to lose too many customers over this. Retail/goods could probably see more hurt though.
 

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
14,063
9,825
136
People have short memories. I don't see Tesla car sales rebounding, but as long as the US doesn't do something like annex Greenland or whatever, other companies will probably suffer at most until the end of the Trump presidency (if a Dem is elected after him).

It also depends on the company. Google, Microsoft, Meta etc. are probably not going to lose too many customers over this. Retail/goods could probably see more hurt though.

People have very long memories if you go out of your way to piss them off!

That's what MAGA and Trump have done with Ukraine, with Gaza, with Canada, with Mexico, with Greenland, with tariffs on allies and trading partners.

This will not be over quickly.
 

biostud

Lifer
Feb 27, 2003
19,327
6,346
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People have very long memories if you go out of your way to piss them off!

That's what MAGA and Trump have done with Ukraine, with Gaza, with Canada, with Mexico, with Greenland, with tariffs on allies and trading partners.

This will not be over quickly.
It really depends on whether you somehow can kill the MAGA movement. We really want you as our ally, but obviously if there is a possibility of these psychophants running the country, you'll never be trustworthy.
 

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
14,063
9,825
136

This is just Vegas.

If you look on youtube there are loads of clips from US TV News echoing the same - its not just Canadians.

It's also ICE detaining European visitors because they look dodgy and people are cancelling planned holidays. I know of 2 European families myself that have done that.

Around places like Niagara Falls in NY, its reported to be a ghost town. Canadians used to travel cross border to shop but not any more. Duty Free shops are barely registering a sale.

IMO this is not sustainable!

#MAGAeconomics
 
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AdamK47

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
15,650
3,514
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Stuck to ETFs for the year until now

Bought CoreWeave at $38 per share Friday. IPO was at $40. Terrible market conditions pulled it down. Bad timing for an IPO. $38 seemed like a steal.

Sold today at $46 per share. Always sell individual stocks quick and never hold. The stock is currently soaring well beyond that. I'm good with an incredibly easy 21% bump.
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
30,412
2,531
126
Stuck to ETFs for the year until now

Bought CoreWeave at $38 per share Friday. IPO was at $40. Terrible market conditions pulled it down. Bad timing for an IPO. $38 seemed like a steal.

Sold today at $46 per share. Always sell individual stocks quick and never hold. The stock is currently soaring well beyond that. I'm good with an incredibly easy 21% bump.
Welcome back Adam and congrats on your win. 😀

I was too afraid to touch that and that damn Newsmax. I was going to buy at $50 on IPO day yesterday but got cold feet since the offer price was $10 bucking dollars.

In just 48 hours of trading Newsmax hit $263!!!!!

 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
71,730
31,671
136
Welcome back Adam and congrats on your win. 😀

I was too afraid to touch that and that damn Newsmax. I was going to buy at $50 on IPO day yesterday but got cold feet since the offer price was $10 bucking dollars.

In just 48 hours of trading Newsmax hit $263!!!!!

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There’s money to be made in telling big lies.
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
30,412
2,531
126
Newsmax getting beat like a red headed step stock.

CoreWeave doing nicely, supposed incredible revenue growth
 
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