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Fenixgoon

Lifer
Jun 30, 2003
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Ask that crazy United Autoworkers Union the same question. They seem to think anything is possible as they are in hog heaven right now.
Im going to stick with the hog metaphor and say they are only being fattened to be slaughtered (and they're not actually being fattened as in living in a golden age of union power)

One, I'm disappointed that Shawn Fain appeared with Trump after campaigning with Harris and loudly declaring "trump is a scab"

Two, Trump's tariffs are going to decimate production lines and therefore production workers - the very people that the UAW is supposed to protect.
 

K1052

Elite Member
Aug 21, 2003
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Two, Trump's tariffs are going to decimate production lines and therefore production workers - the very people that the UAW is supposed to protect.

What's funny that the Trump voting/funding dealers get it but the UAW leadership doesn't. They are all very concerned about what happens after the pre-tariff inventory is gone.
 
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NWRMidnight

Diamond Member
Jun 18, 2001
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I am not saying ignore ALL conservatives. Just the ones who have been in P&N for years and are just as ignorant today as they were a decade ago. You are wasting your time with them. I dont think we have a legit free thinking conservative member who posts here in good faith and has learned anything from us over the years. Id love to be wrong.
You don't seem to grasp what ignoring them has done. You seem to think there has been no damage by doing so. Do you have your head firmly planted in the ground? Because if you stop and really pay attention, ignoring them is what has helped allow their ideology filled with lies to gain traction and grow to what it is today bringing us MAGA, Trump, ETC. You seem to think that AnandTech forums couldn't possibly be a part of that, not realizing no matter how insignificant it seems, it all has an effect and breeds the very ideology filled with lies, that is destroying this country and helped put us on the path we are on today. Every lie that goes uncontested allows them to have an exponential effect on the outcome of this country, and peoples ideology/beliefs, because just one person that is drawn in by their lies, turns into 10, 100, 1000 as the lies are shared with others outside of AnandTech.
 
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Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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I dont think we have a legit free thinking conservative member who posts here in good faith and has learned anything from us over the years. Id love to be wrong.

I may be going against the tide here but I think the only one who's proven to at least learn from things is Felix if you can somehow explain it to him from an economic point of view.

Unlike the other believers, he's not a blind follower.. he's only along for the stuff they sell him if it makes him actual gains in his portfolio. Show that it's a farce and he comes around till they grab hold of his facebook feed and fill his mind up with garbage again.

The cycle repeats.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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I may be going against the tide here but I think the only one who's proven to at least learn from things is Felix if you can somehow explain it to him from an economic point of view.

Still he seems to come around and then magically reverts back as if influenced by a facebook feed of his dear friends and then we have to start debunking the stuff again.

The cycle repeats.
I did that. In the OP I put post dated headlines showing the economy was good going into whoever won the 2024 election. Article dated Oct 2024.

Instead of asking questions he reverted back to his lying self.
 
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MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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I am not saying ignore ALL conservatives. Just the ones who have been in P&N for years and are just as ignorant today as they were a decade ago. You are wasting your time with them. I dont think we have a legit free thinking conservative member who posts here in good faith and has learned anything from us over the years. Id love to be wrong.
You are 100% correct. They are perfect representatives of their party and what they support. Irredeemable. They are incapable of being better.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
25,480
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You don't seem to grasp what ignoring them has done. You seem to think there has been no damage by doing so. Do you have your head firmly planted in the ground? Because if you stop and really pay attention, ignoring them is what has helped allow their ideology filled with lies to gain traction and grow to what it is today bringing us MAGA, Trump, ETC. You seem to think that AnandTech forums couldn't possibly be a part of that, not realizing no matter how insignificant it seems, it all has an effect and breeds the very ideology filled with lies, that is destroying this country and helped put us on the path we are on today. Every lie that goes uncontested allows them to have an exponential effect on the outcome of this country, and peoples ideology/beliefs, because just one person that is drawn in by their lies, turns into 10, 100, 1000 as the lies are shared with others outside of AnandTech.
He didn't say to just ignore all conservatives, In fact he specifically stated he wasn't saying that. He's talking about all the conservatives in p&n, and says as much.

And the conservatives on this forum are indeed irredeemably ignorant and will never get better. he's correct.

For the conservatives who are redeemable, while most likely a very small percentage, do exist, just obviously not the ones here.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
37,881
30,556
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I am not saying ignore ALL conservatives. Just the ones who have been in P&N for years and are just as ignorant today as they were a decade ago. You are wasting your time with them. I dont think we have a legit free thinking conservative member who posts here in good faith and has learned anything from us over the years. Id love to be wrong.
If you take all the liars and hypocrites out of the conservative base how many are left.
 

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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This is just Vegas.

If you look on youtube there are loads of clips from US TV News echoing the same - its not just Canadians.

It's also ICE detaining European visitors because they look dodgy and people are cancelling planned holidays in the US.

Around places like Niagara Falls in NY, its reported to be a ghost town. Canadians used to travel cross border to shop but not any more. Duty Free shops are barely registering a sale.

IMO this is not sustainable!

#MAGAeconomics
 

thilanliyan

Lifer
Jun 21, 2005
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This is just Vegas.

If you look on youtube there are loads of clips from US TV News echoing the same - its not just Canadians.

It's also ICE detaining European visitors because they look dodgy and people are cancelling planned holidays in the US.

Around places like Niagara Falls in NY, its reported to be a ghost town. Canadians used to travel cross border to shop but not any more. Duty Free shops are barely registering a sale.

IMO this is not sustainable!

#MAGAeconomics
The peasants must suffer so that the robber barons can buy more islands and yachts to get to them.
 

JD50

Lifer
Sep 4, 2005
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I'm not interested in an echo chamber, honestly I'd prefer if they posted more. As someone living in a very conservative area I can tell you that @Greenman and @pcgeek11 aren't that bad, they ARE the more reasonable ones. Take that as you will.
 

Fenixgoon

Lifer
Jun 30, 2003
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I'm not interested in an echo chamber, honestly I'd prefer if they posted more. As someone living in a very conservative area I can tell you that @Greenman and @pcgeek11 aren't that bad, they ARE the more reasonable ones. Take that as you will.
I don't think it's the praise you want it to be. More like it's absolute damnation of everyone else that's "worse" than them.
 
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Greenman

Lifer
Oct 15, 1999
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I'm not interested in an echo chamber, honestly I'd prefer if they posted more. As someone living in a very conservative area I can tell you that @Greenman and @pcgeek11 aren't that bad, they ARE the more reasonable ones. Take that as you will.
Blasphemy! This heretical utterance will surely insight the wrath of the herd.

But thanks for the kind word.
 

Wreckem

Diamond Member
Sep 23, 2006
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When stagflation caused soley Trumps policies ravage Trumps base I hope they finally wake the fuck up. But alas they won’t. But it should be enough for a GOP wipeout in the House and Senate. If we still have fair elections.
 

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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When stagflation caused soley Trumps policies ravage Trumps base I hope they finally wake the fuck up. But alas they won’t. But it should be enough for a GOP wipeout in the House and Senate. If we still have fair elections.

No it's part of their plan.. they told everyone there would be pain. It's shock therapy for their own base to remake the country into a shithole country where no intellectuals, scientists, educated professionals and skilled immigrants want to come to.

And it's working..

 

NWRMidnight

Diamond Member
Jun 18, 2001
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No it's part of their plan.. they told everyone there would be pain. It's shock therapy for their own base to remake the country into a shithole country where no intellectuals, scientists, educated professionals and skilled immigrants want to come to.

And it's working..

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I think that number is going to incease, as there are many Canadians who want to cancel trips (personal and/or business), but unable to do so, be it lack of refunds or business related reasons that prevent them from just cancelling outright. The real damage will show up in the next few months when new bookings/events/etc are not made, rather than just looking at what most likely majority consisting of current cancellations.
 

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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I think that number is going to incease, as there are many Canadians who want to cancel trips (personal and/or business), but unable to do so, be it lack of refunds or business related reasons that prevent them from just cancelling outright. The real damage will show up in the next few months when new bookings/events/etc are not made, rather than just looking at what most likely majority consisting of current cancellations.

I agree.. everyone is just worried about tariffs.. but not about MAGA and Trump purposely shitting on everyone.

They're not even counting how bad other countries will boycott the US products and some markets that took decades to break into, will just disappear overnight. Tesla is just the most extreme example.. and even now people are making it look like 40% of share price gone is no biggie.. just the market.

Will be a spectacular crash sometime.. most likely next year when this years Q4 earnings come out since they're always the highest earnings of the year!

That will be the real reality check of how bad MAGA has fucked things up.
 

APU_Fusion

Golden Member
Dec 16, 2013
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I'm not interested in an echo chamber, honestly I'd prefer if they posted more. As someone living in a very conservative area I can tell you that @Greenman and @pcgeek11 aren't that bad, they ARE the more reasonable ones. Take that as you will.

They are horrendous and I suspect Russian assets. They talk a good soft game but they have slipped enough. The true crazies are American crazies. These two try to slip between the cracks to sow dissent.
 
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