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DZero

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They better have food to last two generations. The way things are going, pretty soon a witchhunt is gonna start worldwide. A rich person who does not give back to the community and instead wants to enslave them, is not a very popular rich person (and won't last too long).
The issue? At that moment will have enough ammount of drones and machines to use it against the people. It will be a bloodbath
 

[DHT]Osiris

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Yup. Sad to say I lost hope as well. Best thing we can do now is hope for a carbon capture breakthrough miracle. But even if that was in the cards, I am not convinced that we wouldnt try shut it down cause there be massive investments into that geological future where shit is burning. Probably got something to do with Greenland as well. Capitalism is gonna fuck over everything. Maybe Thanos was right.
At this point I think you're right, enough money is backing expansion into the Arctic that carbon capture will be deemed a national security threat.
 
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nakedfrog

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Is AI at a point where we can ask it for solutions? Pretty sure the answer is Thanos.
We could start making companies responsible for their waste, do away with planned obsolescence, curtail the vast amount of plane flights occurring now, etc, there's a lot of things we could do, but they involve fundamentally altering the way we live as consumer societies.
AI should probably say "you can fix this, you just don't want to".
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
Nov 4, 2004
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We could start making companies responsible for their waste, do away with planned obsolescence, curtail the vast amount of plane flights occurring now, etc, there's a lot of things we could do, but they involve fundamentally altering the way we live as consumer societies.
AI should probably say "you can fix this, you just don't want to".

AI would just respond FYGM lel pwned
 

Jaskalas

Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
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Now building a bunker will be a must for the richest ones.
Destabilizing Russia to the point it breaks a part buy cheap land in Siberia for your family's legacy.
Maybe the two actions are related. Oh, and it'd be both Russia and US. We are every bit as evil and corrupt now. Every bit.

1: Prep.
2: Cause global nuclear war to rid the earth of all the other pests.
3: Earth is yours.
 
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We could start making companies responsible for their waste, do away with planned obsolescence, curtail the vast amount of plane flights occurring now, etc, there's a lot of things we could do, but they involve fundamentally altering the way we live as consumer societies.
AI should probably say "you can fix this, you just don't want to".
As your next President, I would make WFH mandatory. There. Solved almost 80% of environmental pollution right there!
 

MtnMan

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As your next President, I would make WFH mandatory. There. Solved almost 80% of environmental pollution right there!
I was an early pioneer in the WFH transition.

In 1995, I accepted a promotion from a Network Installation and Support Engineer (major computer company), to a project manager for the US portion of some major global WAN installations.

The technology at the time was dial-up for me to connect into company mainframes, and my flip-phone. Actually it was adequate, as everything was text based, and didn't need a lot of bandwidth. The largest files I needed to deal with were Cisco router configurations, typically only 1 - 3k in size, and some Word and Access files, which took a bit more, but transferred in the background. Soon after I started WFH, I was able to get cable internet at home, a whopping 500K speed at the time.

Dress code was great, as no cameras, thus tidy whiteies surfaced many days. Real problem was I had to turn the damn computer off at the end of the day. I liked the work, I was good at it, and I had to develop a discipline to not overwork.

Did that for 6 years till I got the email that I was elgible for early retirement due to the turndown in business that 9/11 brought on... and I ain't look back...
 
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DZero

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Maybe the two actions are related. Oh, and it'd be both Russia and US. We are every bit as evil and corrupt now. Every bit.

1: Prep.
2: Cause global nuclear war to rid the earth of all the other pests.
3: Earth is yours.
Don't work like that. Nuclear warfare causes problem.

This is why Musk wants to get the Antartica and Mars.
 

Moonbeam

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November 4 there was a disturbance in the Matrix. We went from a progressive 21st century through a time warp to mid-30s Germany.
At any one time in history you can put your finger up and tell which way the wind is blowing and if you are emotionally tied to the results you can make yourself miserable. We have entered a psychotic phase in our history as a nation with the results of conservative and libertarian attitudes cresting owing to the destruction they reek on the human psyche. We think that moral will improve if we increase the beatings people take, those evil others of course.

But perhaps it there may be wisdom in taking a longer view. Conservative and libertarian values, a part of our evolutionary past, and served us well before we developed a functional capacity to reason and predict the future from the psychological understanding granted by self reflection, something that fear in its many forms makes difficult.

You are not alone in your concerns and a huge amount of human effort by millions of others has been devoted to understanding what our fate will be.

In my opinion, there is a different way to look at which way the wind is blowing by looking at the what human nature really is, and in particular, why we have a thing called morality.

Many regard morality as subjective, a matter of personal opinion, that distrust of and control over people is required to maintain civic order, that without violence and force, people will think only of themselves. But what if that is only the logical reaction to living in a defective system that rewards negative behavior and destroys natural human empathy.

If you look at the long arc of human history it is the liberals who are winning, Today's society and the constitutional freedoms our forefathers gave us would have seemed to be insane. Not saying we are at the end of the road, reaching some great height and now in decline. What I am saying is that I believe that it is human nature to care, to think of others as well as ourselves and that you can destroy that tendency with programming but never eliminate it from human nature. Somewhere some how, as history tells us, it will thrive and grow. God is a projection of our own inner potential.

No matter what happens in the world outside, your potential as a god will always be within you. The more faith you have in that the better and better off you will be. The universe is a mirror and you hold one end.
 
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