Exactly! Future gens will be even more mobile-first focused. My guess is this will continue indefinitely from now on
CPUs currently are mobile designs that are scaled into the desktop thermal envelopes.
Thats it. Hence the really small performance differences.
As is PC gaming. Been dead, mutilated, maimed, murdered, decapitated so many times.Desktop is forever dying, but never dead.
lmao no Zen is distinctly a server core.CPUs currently are mobile designs that are scaled into the desktop thermal envelopes.
Then you will never buy Intel again. Solder is long gone inside of Intel, never to return.
Well, I have read many times that if you run a laptop at 100% load for sustained times, it gets hot and eventually dies. This is mostly in our DC community. Of course you will say thats a minority. I will just bow out of this discussion as I won't change my opinion, and others will try to change it until until the end of time.
"Hello. I am the desktop CPU. Rumors of my demise continue to be greatly exaggerated."
Uhhh, so you want a Strix Halo?personally i would not mind a mobile GPU variant with 200% less heat and power draw @ 80% performance, especially if u can slot it on a single slot cooler.
I was going to say that this mobile-on-desktop trend reminds me of that time when we had dekstop boards for Pentium M 21-22 years ago, but is not the same as there are a few differences. This time, for the most part, silicon tends to be exactly the same, maybe just better binned (Which actually reminds me even more to Mobile Athlon XP-M on desktop). The main difference is form factor/packaging, since to put them on small MiniPCs they prefer soldered smaller real estate.and we start seeing things like this:
personally i would not mind a mobile GPU variant with 200% less heat and power draw @ 80% performance, especially if u can slot it on a single slot cooler.
LOL bro, who the hell is still running them?
Note: Punisher's remarks should always be read as pertaining to DIY unless specifically stated otherwise.Up until a couple of weeks ago, one of my customers was running an AM2 rig that started off on XP (Jan 2009), I upgraded it to 8 and upgraded the RAM, it got the free upgrade to 10 and I added a SSD. Only when it recently started to have issues apparently coming out of sleep mode, the customer decided that they wanted to replace it rather than investigate it. They bought my old Haswell rig (which I replaced with AMD7000 in late 2023) off me.
I have multiple customers still running AM3 (not AM3+) CPUs. One is running Win10 with a HDD and an Athlon II X2 250; I guess they're somewhat more patient than most!
Why not https://www.amazon.com/MINISFORUM-DeskMini-Desktop-Computer-Graphics/dp/B0F18RXYWQ/ ?I am going to get her This mini PC
It costs more, it's refurb with only 90 day warranty, and Vega iGPU EOL.
I am going to get her This mini PC
OK then this? https://www.amazon.com/MINISFORUM-i5-12450H-Computer-Expandable-Graphics/dp/B0D6FGD1NS/It costs more, it's refurb with only 90 day warranty, and Vega iGPU EOL.
No and do not suggest any more options please. Refurb. Way overkill for what she uses a PC for. Client needs dictate the hardware.OK then this? https://www.amazon.com/MINISFORUM-i5-12450H-Computer-Expandable-Graphics/dp/B0D6FGD1NS/
Alder Lake so you know it handles 100C temps well and it's gonna age much better than a lame Gracemont-only machine.
It costs more, it's refurb with only 90 day warranty, and Vega iGPU EOL.
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But Yonah changed Intel to dominance with Merom, to Conroe, and well, you know the history after that.
I had my hands on a Yonah, and man, those were the fun days.
When intel actually cared and listened to Tuners / Overclockers, and always tried to give us that little extra bit more.
That was then they had that famous video and Motto
"Overclocking so Easy, your Grandmother can do it".
Now i look at my 7960X Threadripper, and im like why do i need to change 5 sets of voltage for 1 stupid thing, and why is my voltages not sticking. Why do i even need to tune PBO and SOC and Infinity what?
Man... brings back memories. Did Intel purposely allow easy grandma overclocking on the Yonah? I thought they locked the multiplier ever since the Klamath/Deschutes.